Solving a Second-Order Nonlinear Differential Equation

In summary: You should get an equation of the form v^2 = C + f(h).In summary, the conversation discusses the attempt to calculate the formula for the position vs. time of a rocket landing from an altitude of 100km. The equations for drag force and air density at different altitudes are given and simplified. The conversation then delves into solving the differential equation, with a suggestion to substitute dt = dh/v and integrate with respect to h to get an equation of the form v^2 = C + f(h).
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bob14
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Homework Statement


Hi, I'm trying to calculate the formula for the position vs. time of a rocket landing from an altitude of 100km. I'm neglecting a lot of forces for simplification but basically, I want to solve ##F_{net} = Drag - mg##.

Homework Equations


Drag Force: D = ## \frac {C_dAρv^2} {2}##

Air Density at height h: ρ(h) = b * h
(I'm just assuming this to simplify the calculation. In the real derivation I would find an equation for each layer of the atmosphere since they differ).

Simplified D = ##kρv^2## where k = ## \frac {C_dA} {2}##

The Attempt at a Solution


##F_{net} = Drag - mg##
##m \frac {dv} {dt} = kρv^2- mg##
##m \frac {dv} {dt} = kbhv^2- mg##

Now I can write v as ## \frac {dh} {dt}##:

##m \frac {dh^2} {d^2t} = kbh{ ( \frac {dh} {dt})}^2- mg##

Here's where I can't solve it. I've never really taken advanced differential equations so I would just like some tips to go in the right direction. I want to get an h(t) type of equation at the end. If that isn't possible, I would still like to simplify the differential to maybe just solve for a numerical answer.
 
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Hi,

google terminal velocity differential equation and find e.g. eq 11 here

##\rho## and ##v## vary slowly with altitude
 
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Hi, the website that you gave doesn't account for ρ. I have already solved the equation in the website when just velocity changes. But when I add the ρ, the equation becomes harder for me since h(t) and h'(t) are multiplied.
 
  • #4
Your equation for the air density is not correct. A more appropriate approximation would be ##\rho = \rho_0 e^{-bh}##
To solve the differential equation, write dt = dh/v.
 
  • #5
Oh ok. So I would get:

##m \frac {dv} {dt} = kp_0e^{-bh}v^2 - mg##

Since ## \frac {dh} {dt} = v## → ##dh = v dt## → ##h = \frac {v^2} {2} + C##
Substituting:

##m \frac {dv} {dt} = kp_0e^{\frac {-bv^2} {2} + C}v^2 - mg##

⇒ ##m \frac {dv} {dt} = Ckp_0e^{\frac {-bv^2} {2}}v^2 - mg##

⇒## \frac {dv} {Ckp_0e^{\frac {-bv^2} {2}}v^2 - mg} = \frac {dt} {m}##
 
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bob14 said:
Oh ok. So I would get:

##m \frac {dv} {dt} = kp_0e^{-bh}v^2 - mg##

Since ## \frac {dh} {dt} = v## → ##dh = v dt## → ##h = \frac {v^2} {2} + C##
Substituting:

##m \frac {dv} {dt} = kp_0e^{\frac {-bv^2} {2} + C}v^2 - mg##

⇒ ##m \frac {dv} {dt} = Ckp_0e^{\frac {-bv^2} {2}}v^2 - mg##

⇒## \frac {dv} {Ckp_0e^{\frac {-bv^2} {2}}v^2 - mg} = \frac {dt} {m}##
This is not what I said. Substitute dt = dh/v in dv/dt, and integrate with respect to h.
 

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