Solving Complex Eigenvalues w/ Matrix System

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The discussion revolves around solving for eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a matrix that includes complex numbers. The original poster is exploring the process of finding eigenvectors after determining the eigenvalues, specifically focusing on a matrix associated with the eigenvalue 1 + 2i.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods for manipulating the matrix to find eigenvectors, including dividing by complex numbers and using conjugates. There are questions about the equivalence of different forms of the eigenvector solutions and the complexity of row reduction with complex entries.

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Several participants have offered different strategies for simplifying the matrix and finding eigenvectors. There is recognition of the equivalence of different eigenvector forms, although some confusion persists regarding the steps taken to arrive at those forms. The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and questioning assumptions about the methods used.

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Participants note the challenges of working with complex numbers in matrix operations and express concerns about the clarity of their results. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for multiple valid eigenvector representations, which may lead to confusion in interpretation.

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Hello:

-was solving for the eigenvalues of a matrix. Obtained:
[tex]\lambda = 1 \pm 2i[/tex]

-substituted back into matrix to try and solve for the eigenvectors:

[tex]\left(\begin{array}{cc}2-2i & -2\\4 & -2-2i\end{array}\right) \left(\begin{array}{cc}x_1 \\ x_2 \end{array}\right) = \mathbf{0}[/tex]

I'm having trouble solving this type of system. I'm just wondering what the general strategy is for tackling these types of matrices.

Thanks.
 
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The same procedures as normal will work, don't let the complex numbers intimidate you! Divide the first row by 2-2i and go from there. To make (-2)/(2-2i) nicer to handle, you can multiply the numerator and denominator by the conjugate, 2+2i.

Once in reduced form, are you able to pick out the eigenvectors?
 
I think I'm going nuts. The matrix I gave was for the eigenvalue 1+2i btw. Here's what I did:

divide row 1 by 2-2i. Then:

[tex]\frac{-2}{2-2i} \times \frac{2+2i}{2+2i} = \frac{-4-4i}{4-4i^2} = \frac{-4-4i}{4-4(-1)} = \frac{-2-2i}{4}[/tex]

The matrix is now:

[tex]\left(\begin{array}{cc}1 & (-2-2i)/4 \\4 & -2-2i\end{array}\right) \left(\begin{array}{cc}\xi_1 \\ \xi_2 \end{array}\right) = \mathbf{0}[/tex]

Both rows clearly represent the same equation, namely:

[tex]\xi_1 = \frac{1+i}{2}\xi_2[/tex]

To me, that means:

[tex]\mathbf{\xi^{(1)}} = \left(\begin{array}{cc} \frac{1+i}{2} \\ 1 \end{array}\right)[/tex]

But according to Boyce & diPrima:

[tex]\mathbf{\xi^{(1)}} = \left(\begin{array}{cc} 1 \\ 1-i \end{array}\right)[/tex]

:confused:
 
Dammit! Nevermind. Those two answers are equivalent! I just had to go through a bunch more rigmarole to get it in their form! :mad: Express the ratio between xi1 and xi2 in the reverse way, and multiply by the complex conjugate yet again! (*wonders if there is some way to arrive at it in their form more directly*)
 
Instead of dividing row 1 by 2-2i, it may be easier to multiply by the right amount.

Muliply by 1+i first. This gives (2-2i)(1+i)=4 and -2(1+i)=-2-2i.
Dividing by 4, you can see immediately that the reduced form of the matrix is:

[tex]\left(\begin{array}{cc}1 & <br /> -\frac{1+i}{2}\\0 & 0\end{array}\right)[/tex]

So [itex]\frac{1+i}{2} \choose 1[/itex] is solution. Rewrite like you did to get the other form.

If you want the 1 on top right away, you want a 1 in the upper right corner.
Start by subtracting the 1st row from the 2nd. You get 2+2i and -2i.
Multiply 2nd row by -i, you get: 2-2i and -2.
Dividing the first row by 2, you get:
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{cc}1-i & <br /> -1\\0 & 0\end{array}\right)[/tex]

So a solution is: [itex]1 \choose 1-i[/itex].

Row reducing complex is usually tedious.
 
cepheid said:
Dammit! Nevermind. Those two answers are equivalent! I just had to go through a bunch more rigmarole to get it in their form! :mad: Express the ratio between xi1 and xi2 in the reverse way, and multiply by the complex conjugate yet again! (*wonders if there is some way to arrive at it in their form more directly*)

Frien,there's no need to "go nuts"! :-p Try to put [itex]x_{1} =1[/itex] in the matrix equation and from the first equation u'll find [itex]x_{2}=1-i[/itex].If u put [itex]x_{2} =1[/itex] in the matrix equation and solving from the second equation u'll find your solution [itex]x_{1}=\frac{1+i}{2}[/itex].U have 2 vectors.See whether they are linear independent.They're not.So,it's irrelevant which u chose in the final solution;

Daniel.
 

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