Algebra 2: Understanding Tangent of 270 Degrees

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding why the tangent of 270 degrees is considered undefined, exploring both geometric and trigonometric perspectives without relying on graphical representation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about determining the tangent of 270 degrees without graphing, questioning how to find the lengths of the opposite leg and hypotenuse.
  • Another participant provides a trigonometric explanation, stating that tangent can be expressed as the ratio of sine to cosine, leading to an undefined result due to division by zero.
  • A third participant reflects on their surprise at not having learned this before, indicating a personal realization about the concept.
  • A different participant points out that a right triangle cannot have a 270-degree angle, suggesting a broader definition involving the coordinate system, where the tangent is undefined due to the x-coordinate being zero at that angle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion, with no consensus on a singular method of explanation or resolution of the initial confusion regarding the tangent of 270 degrees.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the definitions and applications of trigonometric functions, particularly in relation to angles outside the context of right triangles.

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Hello! I was wondering how one knows that the tangent of 270 degrees is undefined without graphing it? I know tangent=opposite/hypotenuse, but how can you find the length of the opposite leg and hypotenuse? gah, I'm so confused.
 
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xtinieee said:
Hello! I was wondering how one knows that the tangent of 270 degrees is undefined without graphing it? I know tangent=opposite/hypotenuse, but how can you find the length of the opposite leg and hypotenuse? gah, I'm so confused.

[tex]\tan 270^{\circ}=:\frac{\sin 270^{\circ}}{\cos 270^{\circ}}=\frac{\sin(90^{\circ}+180^{\circ})}{\cos(90^{\circ}+180^{\circ})}=\frac{\sin 90^{\circ}}{\cos 90^{\circ}}=\frac{1}{0}[/tex]
,which is undefined.

Daniel.
 
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Wow. I can't believe I've never been taught that before.. and ahh I feel stupid now. but thanks SO sososo SO much!
 
Strictly speaking, you can't use "opposite side divided by near side" to find the tangent of 270 degrees because a right triangle can't have a 270 degree angle!

A more general definition is to think of this as on a coordinate system, measuring the angle counterclockwise from the positive x-axis, interpreting "near side" as the x coordinate, and "opposite side" as the y coordinate. A 270 degree angle would give a point on the negative y-axis with x= 0. Since we can't divide by 0, tan 270 is undefined.
 

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