Was Jonny Appleseed a bioterroist?

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The discussion centers around the implications of introducing non-native species into new habitats, specifically questioning whether Jonny Appleseed could be considered a "bio-terrorist" for his actions. Additionally, participants explore the broader topic of whether Homo sapiens will ultimately doom the world or merely alter it.

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  • Some participants argue that introducing non-native plants can threaten indigenous species, questioning Jonny Appleseed's intentions and actions.
  • One participant suggests that Jonny Appleseed could only be considered a bio-terrorist if his actions were intended to harm indigenous species or the local population.
  • Another participant expresses a belief that humans are already destroying the world, rejecting the notion of "eventually" and emphasizing the immediacy of environmental issues.
  • Some participants propose that while humanity may not doom the world, it will dramatically alter it, with one noting that even if humans were to wipe themselves out, life on Earth would likely continue in some form.
  • There is a suggestion that the introduction of European flora or fauna could be explored, although it is noted that many species have already been brought over by settlers.
  • One participant dismisses the idea of a nuclear holocaust as a concern, indicating a belief that such fears are exaggerated.
  • Another participant argues that while humanity alters the environment, it cannot destroy it entirely, as an environment will always exist in some form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether Jonny Appleseed's actions could be classified as bio-terrorism, and there is no consensus on the ultimate fate of the world due to human actions. Some believe humanity is already causing significant harm, while others argue that alteration is not equivalent to destruction.

Contextual Notes

Participants' claims are based on varying interpretations of environmental impact and human agency, with some assumptions about intentions and outcomes remaining unresolved.

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Introducing non-native plant to new habits can doom the indigenous of plants of the area. Do you beileve that Jonny Appleseed is a "bio-terroist"?


In general do you beileve that Homosapeins sapeins will eventually doom the world? :biggrin:
 
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...eventually?

http://www.millville.org/Workshops_f/Dich_FOLKLORE/WACKED/story.html is something on the guy I think your talking about.
Now for my real post:

bjon-07 said:
In general do you beileve that Homosapeins sapeins will eventually doom the world?
Eventually? What's all this about Eventually?
We're already destroying the world! Wake up Bjon! Let there be no more talk of eventually, the world will not end in a sudden flash when we're all vaporized by a nuclear holocaust, we're not being attacked by someone in a far off land, it's happening right here, right now!

Eventually is not the question, will people wake up and stop it is the question. We're being conditioned to think that it will happen eventually. That it's not here and not now, do not listen to the corporate-backed media pop culture, they're not counting on you caring, it's not designed to make you care, it's designed to keep you afraid and conforming so the social elite can maintain their class status.

Let there be no more talk of 'eventually' people need to wake up and realize it's happening now, not tomorrow, not next year, not in your grandchildrens life-time. Today. Wake up you lazy slobs.
 
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bjon-07 said:
Introducing non-native plant to new habits can doom the indigenous of plants of the area. Do you beileve that Jonny Appleseed is a "bio-terroist"?

Only if he did it with the intention of destroying indigenous species of the region (and perhaps only if he intended it to harm the people of the region too).

In general do you beileve that Homosapeins sapeins will eventually doom the world?

Doom the world? Probably not. Dramatically alter it? Yes.
 
I have been thinking of bringing some European flora or fauna and introduce it here and see what happenes next.But I guess all the best stuff was brought here long time ago by settlers.
 
Smurf said:
We're destroying the world!

we're all vaporized by a nuclear holocaust!

Pfft, I'm on the other side, the side that doesn't believe that crap, not to be rude.
 
Phobos said:
Doom the world? Probably not. Dramatically alter it? Yes.


People who whine about humanity destroying the environement, etc., etc. its complete bull---well, sort of.

All we can do is alter the environment, by definition we can't destroy it(even if the Earth loses its atmoshpere, all life is gone and its just like the moon with more iron, it still ahs an environment. By definition there will always be an environment). Even if we wipe ourselves out, its not the end of the world(quite literally, its not) and life on Earth will go on in all likelihood, reagardless of whatever damage we cause. Sure we might dramatically alter the path of evolution, but other species have done that before us, we would not be the first, and we will not be the last.
 

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