View Full Version : Is a circle a function?
Loren Booda
Jan13-05, 01:19 AM
I was brought up believing that when a mapping had more than one ordinate (y) for a particular abscissa (x), it did not describe a function. So is a circle not a function?
scarecrow
Jan13-05, 01:20 AM
correct..................
dextercioby
Jan13-05, 01:32 AM
The so-called "vertical test" will always tell u the answer.In the case of the circle,there are an infinite number of portions/arches (is this the word?? :confused: ) which are functions.
Daniel.
matt grime
Jan13-05, 03:48 AM
<pointing out what a function is> A function from where to where?
Galileo
Jan13-05, 06:06 AM
There is some semantics involved.
Since a circle is a geometrical figure, the wording: 'is a circle a function' has no meaning.
For the same reason, a parabola is not a function, but the graph of the function is.
...doh, I `m getting old and picky. Nevermind... :redface:
HallsofIvy
Jan13-05, 06:27 AM
Indeed, even if we interpret "is a parabola a function" to mean "is a relation whose graph is a parabola a function" we would have to specify the coordinate system. A parabola whose axis is parallel to the y-axis corresponds to a function but exactly the same parabola, in a rotated coordinate system would not be.
(Notice I switched from "circle" to "parabola". A circle, in any coordinate system, does not correspond to a function.)
kishtik
Jan13-05, 09:33 AM
A circle, in any coordinate system, does not correspond to a function.
In any carthesian coordinate system.
In a polar coordinate system, it does.
I mathematics, a function is a sort of black box - you put something in, and it spits something out. (There are other ways to think of them as well.) Now, you ask whether a circle is a function, and the answer is clearly no, since a circle is typically a set of points.
In the familiar (I suppose it could be called cartesian) system, there is no function that whose plot is a circle. In a polar or parametric system functions can readily have circular plots.
It is also relatively easy to see that:
f(x)=\sqrt{1-x}
generates the plot of a half circle - which can often be used instead.
kishtik
Jan14-05, 08:40 AM
f(x)=\sqrt{1-x}
generates the plot of a half circle - which can often be used instead.
That is: f(x)=\sqrt{1-x^2}
Galileo
Jan14-05, 10:46 AM
The plot of
f:[0,2\pi) \to \mathbb{R}^2
f(x)=(cos(x),sin(x))
is a circle.
Or is this cheating?
matt grime
Jan14-05, 10:51 AM
This is the "non-cartesian function" people were mentioning. The question, from what i can tell, boils down to the fact that the OP thinks a graph and a function are the same thing.
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