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DB
Jan22-05, 10:36 AM
I know that pauli's exclusion principle states that no 2 identical fermions can occupy the same quantum state. I understand this for let's say a He atom, but what is going on in 2nd energy level of a Neon atom? How are all the electrons in different quantum states?

Thanks

dextercioby
Jan22-05, 10:39 AM
Write down the electron shell+subshell configuration of Neon and label each electron through its 4 quantum numbers.

Daniel.

DB
Jan22-05, 10:45 AM
Thanks
Write down the electron shell+subshell configuration of Neon
n=1 shell
1s^2

n=2 shell
2s^2,2p^6


and label each electron through its 4 quantum numbers.
I dont know how do do this...

dextercioby
Jan22-05, 10:49 AM
So far it's chemistry (sure derived from QM).Question:Do u know QM??

Daniel.

DB
Jan22-05, 10:53 AM
Umm, I have the understandin of QM, If you could give me a brief explanation of the quantum numbers and the exclusion principle I would research on it and learn more about it.

dextercioby
Jan22-05, 12:33 PM
The part with the quantum numbers and their origin/signification is more complex & pretty mathematical.Do you know group theory???

Daniel.

DB
Jan22-05, 09:09 PM
The part with the quantum numbers and their origin/signification is more complex & pretty mathematical.Do you know group theory???

Daniel.

No, maybe I'm too undereducated to understand the exclusion principle, maybe you can point me in the right direction, where should I start?

dextercioby
Jan23-05, 02:39 AM
With a solid course on analytical mechanics.Quantum Mechanics quantizes classical system described by Hamilton's formulation of Classical Mechanics.

Daniel.

da_willem
Jan23-05, 07:46 AM
Umm, I have the understandin of QM, If you could give me a brief explanation of the quantum numbers and the exclusion principle I would research on it and learn more about it.

perhaps these help:

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=58676
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=56294

DB
Jan23-05, 10:02 AM
Thanks :smile: