Solving for the Energy and Direction of Emitted Photons from a Moving Pion

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The discussion revolves around the decay of a neutral pion into two photons, focusing on calculating the momentum, direction of propagation, and energy of the emitted photons. The problem involves concepts from particle physics and relativistic energy-momentum relations.

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  • Participants explore conservation laws, setting up equations based on energy and momentum conservation. There are attempts to manipulate these equations to isolate variables related to the emitted photons.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing equations and discussing potential methods for solving for the unknowns. There is a mix of humor and clarification regarding notation, indicating a collaborative atmosphere. No explicit consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Participants note the complexity of the equations involved and the challenge of distinguishing between different angles in the problem setup. The original poster expresses difficulty in solving for specific variables, highlighting the need for further exploration of the relationships between them.

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The neutral pion is an elementary particle of the meson family that has a rest mass energy of 135 MeV. This particle is unstable and decays into two photons ("light particles" of no rest mass and energy E=pc). Consider now the following situation: a neutral pion has a kinetic energy of 270 MeV as measured in a given frame. Find the momentum, the direction of propagation and the energy of each of the two emitted photons, given that one of the photons is emitted in a direction perpendicular to the initial velocity of the neutral pion.

My solution: by conservation of energy Kpion+Mpion*c^2=(p1+p2)c^2
p1+p2=(270+135)/c=405/c

by conservation of momentum:

x-direction: Ppion=p1cos(theta1) + p2cos(theta2)=p2cos(theta2)
y-direction: 0=p1-p2sin(theta2)

For the pion we have Ppion*c^2=(E^2-mc^2)^0.5=4.498E-15*c^2

My problem now is solving for theta2. theta2=arctan(P2y/P2x)
I already know P2x=Ppion, but I can't get P2y.

Thanks.
 
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You have a system of 3 equations with 3 unknowns
[tex]p_{2}\cos \vartheta=P[/tex] (1)

[tex]p_{2}\sin\theta=p_{1}[/tex] (2)

[tex]p_{1}+p_{2}=\frac{K}{c}+Mc[/tex] (3)

,where M is the rest mass of the neutral pion,K is the KE of the pion & P is the pion's (relativistic) momentum...

Solve the system & find the 3 unknowns...

Daniel.
 
Hi Daniel I am getting the following,

from (1): p2=P/cos(theta2)
from (2): p1=p2sin(theta2)

substitution in (3) yields p2sin(theta2)+P/cos(theta2)=K/c+Mc
and after a few manipulations I get tan(theta2)+
sec(theta2)=(K/c+Mc)/P I am not sure how to solve
for theta2.
 
Hint : take equation (1) squared plus equation (2) squared.
 
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That doesn't work...The "theta's" are different... :-p Cf. [itex]\theta[/itex] to [itex]\vartheta[/itex].

It was a joke...They're the same.

Good advice... :smile:

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
That doesn't work...The "theta's" are different... :-p Cf. [itex]\theta[/itex] to [itex]\vartheta[/itex].

:smile: lol that's hillarious.

Thanks to all for their kind help.
 
dextercioby said:
That doesn't work...The "theta's" are different... :-p Cf. [itex]\theta[/itex] to [itex]\vartheta[/itex].

It was a joke...They're the same.

Good advice... :smile:

Daniel.

Were the "different" thetas a typo ? :wink:

Anyway, let me just work this out as I would do it.

Using Daniel's notation,

Square (1) and (2) and add :

[tex]p^2_2 = p^2_1 + P^2[/tex]


[tex]p^2_2 - p^2_1 = P^2[/tex]


[tex](p_2 - p_1)(p_2 + p_1) = P^2[/tex] ---(4)

Put equation (3) into (4) and rearrange,

[tex]p_2 - p_1 = \frac{P^2}{\frac{K}{c} + Mc}[/tex] ---eqn(5)

Take (3) + (5) :

[tex]2p_2 = \frac{P^2}{\frac{K}{c} + Mc} + \frac{K}{c} + Mc[/tex]

and you can find [itex]p_2[/itex] and then [itex]p_1[/itex]

How to get [itex]P^2[/itex] in terms of what's given in the question ? For that, I would use [tex]E^2 = P^2c^2 + m^2c^4[/tex]

where [tex]E = K + mc^2[/tex]. You're given [itex]K[/itex] and the rest energy.

I'll leave the orig. poster to do the final simplifications.
 

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