How Do You Calculate the Wavelength Needed to Eject an Electron from Sodium?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the wavelength of light necessary to eject an electron from a sodium surface, specifically in the context of the photoelectric effect. Participants explore the relevant equations and concepts, including energy calculations and unit conversions.

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  • One participant inquires about the shortest wavelength capable of ejecting an electron from sodium.
  • Another participant introduces the photoelectric effect and provides a link for further reading.
  • A participant shares their current understanding and calculations, using the equation eV_{0} = \frac{hc}{\lambda}-\phi, and expresses confusion about obtaining eV_0.
  • It is suggested that to find the minimum energy photon needed to eject an electron, eV_0 should be set to 0.
  • Participants discuss the calculation of wavelength, with one suggesting the conversion of eV to joules for consistency in units.
  • A participant asks about the energy of the fastest electrons ejected when using a quicksilver lamp, seeking guidance on the appropriate formulas.
  • Another participant reiterates the formula for calculating the maximum kinetic energy of ejected electrons based on photon energy and the energy required to eject an electron.

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Participants generally agree on the use of the photoelectric effect and the relevant equations, but there is no consensus on the correctness of specific calculations or the best approach to find eV_0 and the energy of the fastest electrons.

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Participants express uncertainty about unit conversions and the interpretation of results, particularly regarding the relationship between energy in eV and joules, as well as the implications for wavelength calculations.

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Hi.

How do I calculate this:

How long is the shortest light-wavelength that can breake loose a elektron from a natrium surface?
 
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Thank you for the link, clive.
This is what I've got now:

[tex]eV_{0} = \frac{hc}{\lambda}-\phi[/tex]
[tex]h = 6,6261 * 10^{-34}[/tex]
[tex]c = 2,99792458*10^8[/tex]
[tex]\phi =2,28eV[/tex]

I need [tex]eV_0[/tex] to calculate [tex]\lambda[/tex]. How do I get it?

And ofcourse I want the longest wavelength and not the shortest as I said before. :smile:
 
Kahsi said:
I need [tex]eV_0[/tex] to calculate [tex]\lambda[/tex]. How do I get it?
[tex]eV_0[/tex] is the maximum KE of the ejected electron; to find the minimum energy photon (longest wavelength) needed to eject an electron, set [tex]eV_0[/tex] to 0.
 
Okay so we got

[tex]\frac{hc}{\lambda} = \phi[/tex]
[tex]h = 6,6261*10^{-34}[/tex]
[tex]c\approx 3*10^8[/tex]
[tex]\phi = 2,28eV[/tex]

This gives us

[tex]\lambda\approx 8,7*10^{-26}[/tex]

Is this correct? Maybe i should turn eV to joule first?

Btw: Is the answer in meter? (I'm new to frequency)
 
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use standard units

Kahsi said:
Maybe i should turn eV to joule first?
You'd better use consistent units throughout. Since h = 6.625 x 10-34 J-s, you'd better convert eV to Joules!

Btw: Is the answer in meter? (I'm new to frequency)
The standard unit for length is the meter, so that equation for [itex]\lambda[/itex] will give you meters.
 
Another question. If I'm lighting up a natriumsurface with a quicksilver-lamp electrons will "release". But which formulas should I use to calculate which energy the fastest electrons will get?

Thank you in advance.
 
Kahsi said:
But which formulas should I use to calculate which energy the fastest electrons will get?
See post #4 in this thread. You have the formula.
(Photon energy) - (energy needed to eject an electron) = maximum KE of ejected electron

This may help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect#Explanation
 

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