How do you find the domain just by looking at the equation?

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The discussion revolves around determining the domain of various mathematical expressions, specifically rational functions and functions involving square roots. The examples provided include a rational function, a function with a square root in the denominator, and a nested square root function.

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  • Participants explore the requirements for the arguments of square root functions and the conditions under which the denominator of a fraction is defined. Questions are raised about how to properly interpret the expressions and identify points where the functions are undefined.

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Several participants have provided insights into the conditions necessary for defining the domains of the given functions. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these conditions, particularly regarding the need to avoid division by zero and ensure non-negative arguments for square roots. Multiple interpretations of the expressions are being discussed.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the notation used in the expressions, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. Participants emphasize the importance of proper mathematical notation to avoid misinterpretation.

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How do you find the domain just by looking at the equation?

ex1) x^2/ x^4+4x-5
2) t/√(t^2-5t+6)
3) √[2-√(4-x)]
 
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Take your last expression.
What must you require of the argument of the (real) square root function?
 
Take the first.What's the point in which the division (employed by the fraction) has no meaning...?

Daniel.
 
when x^4+4x-5=0
 
gillgill:
LEARN TO WRITE MATHS PROPERLY!
For 1) Did you mean x^2/(x^4+4x-5), x^2/(x^4+4x)-5, x^2/x^4 +4x-5
Do you understand what I'm talking about?
 
Assuming that your first function was x^2/ (x^4+4x-5) (do you see why I put in the parentheses?) then, yes, the denominator will be 0 when x^4+ 4x- 5= 0 and, since you cannot divide by 0, the domain is "all real numbers except solutions to x^4+ 4x- 5".

In problem 2, the quantity inside the square root cannot be negative or zero (since we are dividing by it).

In the last one, certainly we must have 4- x>= 0 (so x<= 4) in order to be able to do that square root but we must also have 2- sqrt(4-x)> 0. To determine what restriction that puts on x, look at 2- sqrt(4-x)= 0. That is the same as 2= sqrt(4-x) and, squaring, 4= 4-x which is the same as x= 0! If x< 0, then 4-x> 4,sqrt(4-x)> 2 and 2- sqrt(4-x)< 0. The domain is 0<= x<= 4.
 
It's not the one with the 5 in the denominator,i hope,else he would have to solve that quartic...Actually a cubic,because "+1" is a sollution...

Daniel.
 
In addition to HallsofIvy's suggestions, I would like to say that what they are asking you to find, is the MAXIMAL domain of the (real) functions over the real numbers.
 

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