Universities in Europe: Options for 17 Year Olds

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The discussion revolves around options for university education in Europe for a 17-year-old considering alternatives to traditional UK universities. Participants explore various countries, financial implications, and the quality of education available in Europe, particularly in relation to specific fields of study such as chemistry and physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about attending prestigious UK universities and seeks information on European options.
  • Several participants suggest considering universities in specific countries, such as Germany, Switzerland, and the Netherlands, and emphasize the importance of language of instruction.
  • Financial concerns are highlighted, with one participant noting the high tuition fees at UK universities and suggesting that European universities could be a viable alternative.
  • Discussion includes the potential for free education in Scandinavian countries, with some participants clarifying the conditions under which this applies.
  • Questions arise regarding the ranking of Finnish education compared to the US and the availability of English-taught courses in Finland.
  • Interest is shown in specific universities, such as Aachen University in Germany, with mixed experiences shared about its reputation.
  • Concerns are raised about the language requirements for studying in Denmark and Sweden, with some participants noting that many courses may be taught in the native language.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on the best options for studying in Europe, with no consensus reached on specific universities or countries. Financial considerations and language of instruction remain contested points.

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Limitations include varying assumptions about language proficiency, financial aid availability, and the specific conditions for free education in different countries.

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Hello

I currently live in england, and am 17. Am doing just decent schoolwork, with various subject.

17 i think, is a age where you have a lot of options (almost too much) and this applies for university choices. People would usually think oxbridge in england and imperial etc etc.. but realistically, i don't see myself going to these universities.

So i thought maybe i could consider going international in mainland europe in terms of university. By no means am i saying that i will be bright enough to go to european universities (I'm just give it my best shot) but can anyone give me information on universities in mainland europe?

Thanks

blad.
 
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These could be useful sources of information :

http://www.support4learning.org.uk/careers/study_away.htm
http://www.transworldeducation.com/europe.htm
http://www.eurochoice.org.uk/home.htm
 
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Also consider the other UK universities; the difference between an Oxbridge science degree and a similar class science degree from any of the good, red brick universities is far less than you would think.

What are you thinking of studying? This would play a major part in your decision.
 
brewnog said:
Also consider the other UK universities; the difference between an Oxbridge science degree and a similar class science degree from any of the good, red brick universities is far less than you would think.

What are you thinking of studying? This would play a major part in your decision.

Well, I'm thinking of studying either in the direction of chemistry or physics. Although at the moment, the latter seems more possible.. I'm not sure my physics skills are 'up to touch'.

And about other british universities. Yes, I know that there isn't much difference in degree course, especially when you are looking forward to doing higher education such as Ph.D. The problem is financial really. My brother currently goes to imperial collage on biomedical engineering, but the tuition fee (although to you it may not seem) are horrendous: over 10,000 pounds to be rough.

By no means am i saying that European universities are my 'crappy alternative' in terms of finance, because European universities are quite excellent.

Specific countries I'm looking on is Germany and Swiss, and holland. Although ireland has also not escaped my notice..
 
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Also to bewndog: I've been considering some british universities, erspecially sussex. I don't know why, but that uni seems to attract me..
 
Why don't you come to Canada. A lot cheaper for education, and Great Universities.
U of Queens
U of Toronto
U of Waterloo
U of McMaster

Regards,

Nenad
 
Most scandinavian countries provide free education.
 
Monique said:
Most scandinavian countries provide free education.

So we do ... up to PhD with no cost :smile: (well, course material etc. along the way of course).
 
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http://home.wanadoo.nl/ricks.place/university.html

all the English language options at Dutch Universities
 
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Monique said:
Most scandinavian countries provide free education.

only for citizens right?
 
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jai6638 said:
only for citizens right?

I can only speak for us Finns, but up until now for anyone. May change in some years though.
 
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wow! i didnt know that... how does Finlands undergraduate education rank in compared to US? Also, are the courses taught in English and is English enough to get aruond in Finland or knowledge of Finnish is needed to converse with the locals?
 
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jai6638 said:
wow! i didnt know that... how does Finlands undergraduate education rank in compared to US? Also, are the courses taught in English and is English enough to get aruond in Finland or knowledge of Finnish is needed to converse with the locals?

Usually we've no problems what comes to rankings ... all Nordic countries tend to be at the very top end. In Finland it's pretty easy to go about using English, since our native language isn't spoken anywhere else ... & :biggrin: ... English is a mandatory subject starting from 3rd grade ... several, but naturally not all undergrad courses are taught in English ... much of the very basic stuff is taught in Finnish, but overall e.g. course material is typically available (or more like only) in English, at least what comes to scientifical universities.
 
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I've heard aahen (sp)? university in Germany is quite good. Anyone have any information on it?
 
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Usually we've no problems what comes to rankings ... all Nordic countries tend to be at the very top end. In Finland it's pretty easy to go about using English, since our native language isn't spoken anywhere else ... & ... English is a mandatory subject starting from 3rd grade ... several, but naturally not all undergrad courses are taught in English ... much of the very basic stuff is taught in Finnish, but overall e.g. course material is typically available (or more like only) in English, at least what comes to scientifical universities

interesting... thanks for the info :)
 
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Bladibla said:
I've heard aahen (sp)? university in Germany is quite good. Anyone have any information on it?

Haven't studied there but visited some of their labs on couple of occations ... been impressed every time ! "Sturdy", traditional uni in my opinion.
 
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AFAIK, all the nordic countries have "free" education, but (at least in Denmark, and i believe sweden as well) all undergraduate courses are taught in the native language. Here (Denmark) most of the study material is in english, but all lectures and exams are in danish. Actually here in denmark, danish citizens, and people who have lived and worked here (in at least a 50% job) for 2 years get a "scholarship" from the government. Aroudn 800$ a month as a grant each month, with the option of a 350$ loan a month as well.
 

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