Proving an Equilateral Triangle: Trig Identities Explained

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The discussion revolves around proving that triangle ABC is equilateral given the condition sin(A/2) sin(B/2) sin(C/2) = 1/8. Participants explore various mathematical approaches, including trigonometric identities and the sine rule, while seeking clarity on the steps involved in the proof.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the sine rule to approach the problem.
  • Another participant proposes a reasoning method based on the assumption that if the triangle is equilateral, then A = B = C = π/3 rad, leading to sin(A/2) sin(B/2) sin(C/2) = 1/8.
  • A different approach involves expanding the equation sin(A/2) sin(B/2) sin(C/2) = 1/8 to derive a quadratic form, leading to conditions on angles A and B.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the steps taken in the expansion, particularly regarding the implications of A² + B² = 0.
  • One participant introduces a trigonometric identity to facilitate the expansion of the product of sines.
  • Another suggests eliminating a variable by using the relationship A + B + C = 180 degrees.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about the complexity of the methods and seek simpler solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to prove the triangle is equilateral, with multiple competing methods and some uncertainty about the validity of certain steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of specific trigonometric identities and the steps involved in the proof, indicating a need for further clarification on the mathematical reasoning presented.

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Readers interested in trigonometry, triangle properties, and mathematical proofs may find this discussion relevant.

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Trig identities please help

In triangle ABC if sin (A/2) sin (B/2) sin (C/2) = 1/8
prove that the triangle is equilateral please show steps
 
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Perhaps you can use the sine rule (?)
 
Sure .. I tried but had no success .. If you find an answer please post your steps
 
one method suggested:

(an absurd reasonning)

if it is an equilateral triangle then:
A = B = C = pi/3 rad

implies ---> A/2 = B/2 = C/2 = pi/6 rad

implies ---> sin(A/2) = sin(B/2) = sin(C/2) = 1/2

implies ---> sin(A/2)sin(B/2)sin(C/2) = 1/2*1/2*1/2 = 1/8

thus it is indeed an equilateral triangle

if i come with another one i will post it :)
hope it will help
 
Try expand the equation
[tex]\sin{\frac{A}{2}}\sin{\frac{B}{2}}\sin{\frac{C}{2}} = \frac{1}{8}[/tex]
to
[tex]4\sin{\frac{C}{2}}^{2} - 4\sin{\frac{C}{2}}\cos{\frac{A - B}{2}} + 1 = 0[/tex]
Then to
[tex](2\sin{\frac{C}{2}} - \cos{\frac{A - B}{2}})^{2} + (\sin{\frac{A - B}{2}})^{2} = 0[/tex]
Now you have something like [itex]A^{2} + B^{2} = 0[/itex] so
[tex]\left\{ \begin{array}{c} A = B \\ \sin{\frac{C}{2}} = \frac{1}{2}\cos{\frac{A - B}{2}} \end{array}\right[/tex]
So you will have A = B = C = 60 degrees, which implies the triangle ABC is equilateral.
Hope it help.
Viet Dao,
 
For AI thank you but this won't do
 
For VietDao29 If A^2 + B^2 = 0 then we're stuck because no two +ve numbers addto zero ...right ? Then it should be A^2 = - B^2
How did you expand 1st step
How did you get last step
please go in more details
 
Both A and B are real.So their square is larger or equal to zero.In order for the sum of the squares to be 0,each if the squares must be 0.

Daniel.
 
Well that's a good point. How did I miss that :) Now for the first step please how did we expand Sin (A/2) Sin (B/2) Sin (C/2) to next step
ie. How to start ... the rest is ok
 
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Use this IDENTITY:

[tex]\sin x\sin y\equiv \frac{1}{2}[\cos(x-y)-\cos(x+y)][/tex]

The result is immediate.

Daniel.
 
  • #11
Try starting by eliminating a variable. Since you know that A, B, and C are all in the same triangle, you have:

A+B+C=180
C=180-A-B

See where that gets you.
 
  • #12
Thank you all ... I can do it now following your steps
The rule supplied by Dextercioby did not look familiar (but it's correct I checked) ..well memory is not what it used to be :) isn't that a bit complicated though ... I thought the answer should be more straight forward .. any way thank you all again
 
  • #13
nelraheb said:
Thank you all ... I can do it now following your steps
The rule supplied by Dextercioby did not look familiar (but it's correct I checked) ...well memory is not what it used to be :) isn't that a bit complicated though ... I thought the answer should be more straight forward .. any way thank you all again

That's interesting.The checking part.I've said IDENTITY. :wink: There may have been a chance i didn't invent it,but either picked it from a book or deduced starting other identities (which i have actually done).

Daniel.
 

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