Solve Energy/Work Problem: Find Height of Thrown Ball

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The problem involves determining the height a bowling ball reaches when thrown straight up after a force is applied. The scenario includes a 7.0 kg bowling ball and a force of 810 N exerted over a distance of 2.0 m.

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  • Participants discuss drawing free body diagrams and calculating the sum of forces acting on the ball. There are attempts to relate work done to kinetic energy and potential energy, with various equations being referenced. Some participants express uncertainty about the feasibility of their calculations and seek clarification on the relationships between work, kinetic energy, and potential energy.

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The discussion includes multiple interpretations of the problem and various approaches to the calculations. Some participants have provided calculations and expressed doubts about their results, while others have offered clarifications on the equations involved. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answer yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of applying work-energy principles and are questioning the assumptions made in their calculations. There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of formulas related to work, kinetic energy, and potential energy.

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I am stumped by a problem I was given to find the height of a thrown ball from the point of release. The problem is:

During a contest that involved throwing a 7.0 kg bowling ball straight up in the air, one contestant exerted a force of 810 N on the ball. If the force was exerted through a distance of 2.0 M, how high did the ball go from point of release?

I've been working for the past 15 minutes trying to set up an equation/s, but I can't figure out which way to take the problem. Any advice on how to arrange the given quantities would be appreciated.
 
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Hmm...I'm not exactly an expert...lol. But I'll give you my advice anyway.

Draw a free body diagram on the ball. Find the sum of the forces (810 N going up, 700 N down)...remember W=F(distance)..
 
Now, I'm pretty sure work=kinetic engergy. try to find the initial veloc. of the ball. then use kinematics to find max height.
 
let me know if you understand what I'm saying...please show your work.
 
I set it so that Work= Change in Kinetic Energy and got an answer I don't think is feasible. Fd=m(v squared)/2 (810)(2.0)=(7.0)(v squared)/2 v=square root(3240/7) which equals a velocity of 22 m/s after I plugged that into the Ke=Ug equation I got a height of 25 m.

I have a feelign I'm making this problem a lot harder than it truly is.
 
remember the sum of the force is just 810-700 (weight of ball)...=110
 
At point of release KE = 1620J, PE = 0
At point of impact KE = 0, PE = 1620J
KE = .5mv^2
PE = mgh
PEi + KEi = PEf+KEf
mgh+.5mv^2 = mgh+.5mv^2. Notice both sides equal 1620.

mgh = 0 ______ .5mv^2 = 0

.5mv^2 = mgh
F*d = mv^2​
.5v^2 = gh
v^2 = F*d/m​

F*d/(2m) = gh
h = F*d/(2*m*g)
h = (810)*(2)/(2*7*9.8)
h = 1620/137.2
h = 11.8m

I hope this helps.
 
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bjr_jyd15 said:
Now, I'm pretty sure work=kinetic engergy. try to find the initial veloc. of the ball. then use kinematics to find max height.

Please correct me if I'm showing my stupidity here, but if the above statement is true, then would whozum's equation be incorrect in that
"F*D=mv^2" or would it be F*D=.5mv^2,
which would make it:

F*D/m=gh --> h=F*D/m*g

Thanks
Chris
 
For some reason when I wrote that, I had a reason that the 1/2 shouldn't be there, but now that I'm looking back at it, I have no idea why I omitted it.

You are correct.

[tex]KE = Fd = 1/2 mv^2[/tex]
 
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thanks for clarifying that whozum
 

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