Actual speed that something is moving through space?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of speed in relation to objects moving through space, particularly focusing on the speed of light and the relativity of motion. Participants explore the implications of relative motion and the fundamental nature of the speed of light, touching on both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that speed is relative, emphasizing that there is no unique "actual speed" due to the absence of an absolute frame of reference.
  • One participant questions the underlying principles that determine the constant speed of light, seeking explanations beyond mere observation.
  • Another participant suggests that the speed of light is related to the interaction between electric and magnetic fields, proposing a mechanism for its constancy.
  • Some contributions express a sense of mystery surrounding the speed of light, with one participant stating that "nobody knows" why it is what it is.
  • There are humorous interjections about the importance of other topics, such as nuclear fusion, which seem to divert from the main scientific discussion.
  • Participants engage in light-hearted banter regarding comments made about "making fun of hippies," indicating a casual tone amidst the scientific inquiry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that speed is relative and that there is no absolute frame of reference. However, there are competing views regarding the nature of the speed of light and its underlying principles, leaving the discussion unresolved on these points.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the speed of light and its relationship to electric and magnetic fields remain speculative and are not universally accepted. The discussion also includes informal remarks that may distract from the scientific focus.

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If everything is moving (the earth, the sun, the galaxy ex.) how can you calculate the actual speed that something is moving through space?
 
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It's all relative. There is no unique actual speed.
 
First of all, as I am new here, I apologize if this question has been answered before, is in the wrong forum, etc. I also will preface my question by saying that I have only a laymen's understanding of physics.

On the subject of the speed of light, why exactly is it what it is? I mean, I know that it's constant, and I know how fast it is, but why isn't it faster, or slower. I guess what I'm asking is, what underlying principle, formula, law, equation, size, etc. produces the precise value for the speed of light? From what is it derived (other than just observation)?

Thanks in advance for taking it easy on me if this is an obvious or simple question. It's just one of those nagging questions I've never had a chance to ask anyone who would know.
 
Nobody knows Almaron. It's a mystery.
 
Thanks, Antiphon. I kind of suspected it might be one of those things. It just seems so fundamental, ya' know? Does anyone have any thoughts on why a speed (that is a simple distance over time) should be in essence the backbone, that so absolutely defines the relationship, or duality of energy and matter?
 
find a way to calculate speed relative to the speed of light, which is constant no matter what is moving, then you can find out how fast you are going. Have fun finding out how to go about doing that, because i don't want to get a stroke thinking about it. there are more important things in life, like figuring out how to make an efficent nuclear fusion reactor, or making fun of hippies.
 
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there are more important things in life, like figuring out how to make an efficent nuclear fusion reactor, or making fun of hippies.

Hey, I resemble that.
 
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find a way to calculate speed relative to the speed of light, which is constant no matter what is moving, then you can find out how fast you are going. Have fun finding out how to go about doing that, because i don't want to get a stroke thinking about it. there are more important things in life, like figuring out how to make an efficent nuclear fusion reactor, or making fun of hippies.


Like lighten up, man. Cool it, have a smoke, and fuse with the Universe.

Like, wow,
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making fun of hippies is just a joke, i didn't mean it to be offensive. if i insulted anyone in my hippie comment, i really don't care because you don't know my real name, address, or anything so I'm not worried about you going charlie manson on me.
Next time i'll try to keep it strictly science.
 
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making fun of hippies is just a joke, i didn't mean it to be offensive.

No offence taken. Besides, we are a protected species under federal wildlife regulations. :smile:
 
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almaron said:
On the subject of the speed of light, why exactly is it what it is? I mean, I know that it's constant, and I know how fast it is, but why isn't it faster, or slower. I guess what I'm asking is, what underlying principle, formula, law, equation, size, etc. produces the precise value for the speed of light? From what is it derived (other than just observation)?

The best explanation I heard is that a magnetic field in one direction generates a perpendicular electric field, and vice versa. The speed of light is just the speed necessary for the two to "prop each other up" to propgate.
 
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DrChinese said:
No offence taken. Besides, we are a protected species under federal wildlife regulations. :smile:

pretty soon they will require hippies to live in zoos and little kids will throw food at you

LOL
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find a way to calculate speed relative to the speed of light, which is constant no matter what is moving, ...

Huhh... this is trivial. The speed on anything, relative to c... is c. You have learned nothing.
 
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bmurphy12345 said:
If everything is moving (the earth, the sun, the galaxy ex.) how can you calculate the actual speed that something is moving through space?
The answer is that you can't that is what is meant when it is said that there is no absolute frame of reference.

You can only know the speed of any object with respect to other objects.
 

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