Streamflow and lift for Micro Aerial Vehicles?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the equations and challenges associated with determining streamflow and lift for Micro Aerial Vehicles (MAVs). It touches on theoretical aspects, practical engineering challenges, and the complexities of aerodynamics at small scales.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the specific equations used for streamflow and lift in MAVs and the associated problems.
  • Another participant notes that analyzing flow over MAVs is more complex than for larger aircraft due to lower Reynolds Numbers, which complicates the simplification of the Navier-Stokes equations and suggests that molecular viscosity cannot be neglected.
  • A participant questions whether engineers rely on trial and error when designing MAVs, indicating uncertainty about the design process.
  • Another participant mentions a lack of MAVs observed in flight, suggesting potential practical limitations or challenges in their deployment.
  • A later reply references an article discussing issues related to the scaling of aerodynamics and engines, implying that similar challenges are faced in MAV design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the challenges of MAV design and the methods used to address these challenges, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to Reynolds Numbers and the complexities of fluid dynamics at small scales, but do not resolve the implications of these factors on MAV design.

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What are the equations used to determine the streamflow and lift for Micro Aerial Vehicles?

What are the problems with MAVs?
 
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As far as I know analyzing flow over MAV's is more difficult than doing that in larger aircrafts. The flow around MAV's has Reynolds Numbers below 100.000 or so, which makes impossible simplify terms of N-S equations. Molecular viscosity forces might not be neglected.
 
So when engineers make MAVs, what do they rely on? Trial and Error?
 
I don't know, but I haven't seen too many MAV's flying over there.
 
Along the same lines, this just came out in one of the trade mags I get. It explains a bit of the issues of why aerodynamics don't scale well. We run into many of the same issues with our engines.

http://www.designnews.com/article/CA513570.html
 
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