Antenna Amplitude: Factors Affecting Wave Size

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The discussion revolves around the factors affecting the amplitude of waves emitted by antennas, exploring theoretical and practical aspects of antenna design and signal transmission.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the amplitude of the signal fed to the antenna directly affects the wave amplitude.
  • Others argue that the efficiency of the antenna plays a significant role in determining the amplitude.
  • It is suggested that impedance matching between the source and the antenna is crucial, along with the relationship between the antenna length and the frequency of the signal.
  • One participant questions the connection between frequency and amplitude, seeking clarification on the relevant formula.
  • A later reply asserts that antennas should ideally be half the wavelength of the signal for optimal transmission, indicating that incorrect antenna length can lead to energy loss.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of the antenna as an equivalent circuit comprising inductive, capacitive, and resistive elements, emphasizing the importance of tuning for efficient operation.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the factors influencing amplitude, with no consensus reached on the primary determinants or the relationship between frequency and amplitude.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding antenna design, such as the need for tuning and the impact of impedance, but these points remain unresolved and depend on specific configurations and conditions.

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What affects the size of the amplitude of a wave sent by an antenna?
 
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The amplitude of the signal fed to it.

- Warren
 
And the efficiency of the antenna.
 
The impedence matching between the source and the antenna(kind of inclusive with the above two). The length of the antenna vs the frequency of the signal sent to it.
 
faust9 said:
The impedence matching between the source and the antenna(kind of inclusive with the above two). The length of the antenna vs the frequency of the signal sent to it.

You're saying that the frequency has to do with the amplitude? Whats the formula anywayz?
 
mtanti said:
You're saying that the frequency has to do with the amplitude? Whats the formula anywayz?

Yes I am. Antennas have to be 1/2 of the signal wavelength for optimum transmission (1/4 waves use ground for the other 1/4 of the antenna length) http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/antennas/antenna-basics.htm

So, if your antenna is not the correct length then part of the energy put into the antenna will be lost. http://www.ycars.org/EFRA/Module%20C/AntVert.htm
 
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It is useful to think of the equivalent circuit of the antenna as a series circuit it comprises 4 parts L C R1 R2 , R1 is the radiation resistance , R2 is the loss resistance L and C are the inductive and capacitive elements .
Ideally L and C tune out if the signal frequency matches the antenna type and configuration . The part of the signal important is that across R1 typically a few 10's of Ohms , usually r2 is not too high and in many cases can be ignored , but the tuning
is important since typical antennas like a dipole are quite high Q meaning that the L impedance is higher than R1 and this must by canceled by the C impedance .
In cases where it matters the antenna impedance will be measured and any tuning
done ( sometimes by an externally added C component or matching circuit ) .
Antennas do NOT have to be tuned alone -- small antennas as used in portable equipment (pagers ) cannot self tune -- so they are tuned by other components -- they can still be efficient . in Antenna design suitable software is often used which
indicate impedances losses and directional information .
Ray.
 

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