Habitable Worlds circling non-Sol like stars

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The discussion explores the possibility of habitable worlds orbiting non-Sol-like stars, specifically focusing on Red Giant stars. Participants consider the conditions necessary for such worlds to support life, the stability of orbits, and the implications of stellar evolution on habitability.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a world similar to Earth could orbit a Red Giant star and what conditions would be necessary for habitability.
  • Another participant asserts that it is possible for Mars to become habitable in the future, referencing external sources.
  • A different participant mentions research on the stability of Earth's orbit and its implications for habitability, suggesting that Earth could maintain comfortable temperatures even with significant orbital changes.
  • One participant argues that while a rocky planet could theoretically remain in orbit during a star's expansion to a Red Giant, the altered solar spectrum and strong stellar winds would likely make the environment inhospitable for life.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of habitability around Red Giant stars, with some suggesting potential for life and others expressing skepticism about the conditions that would prevail.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of stellar evolution on habitability, and there are varying assumptions about the stability of orbits and the nature of life-supporting conditions.

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Is it possible, say, for a world like Earth (or, at least enough like Earth that people could live there without space suits, etc.) to orbit a Red Giant star? What would such a world be like?

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The short answer is yes. In fact, Mars may someday become habitable. See:
http://www.nasa.gov/lb/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/frozenworlds.html
 
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Interesting. Sort of in conjunction if anyone's interested, I once read an article where they tested to see just how stable the Earth's orbit needed to be in order to be habitable to life. One orbit they had tested the Earth going as far in as Venus and as far out as Mars, but the verdict was you could still find comfortable temperatures on Earth around Norway and such.
 
To first order, an isotropic expansion of a star (like the sun changing to a red giant) shouldn't alter the orbits of the planets. There's no reason it couldn't retain a rocky planet (assuming it was beyond the outer envelope of the expanded star) during that process. The possibility of life surviving under these circumstances is a bit trickier, though. The solar spectrum would be dramatically changed and there would be strong stellar winds ejecting material into the solar system. I personally doubt that such a situation would be hospitable to life.
 

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