Solving Error Analysis for Acceleration: Troubleshooting with Simple Formula

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The original poster is attempting to calculate the error in acceleration using the formula a=2d/t^2, where distance is known without uncertainty, but time has associated uncertainty. The discussion revolves around the interpretation of error in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for error propagation in the context of acceleration and question the implications of negative errors. Some participants provide mathematical expressions for error while others clarify the definitions of standard deviation and variance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of error and its representation. There is a focus on clarifying terminology and the implications of negative values in error calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the original poster's understanding of the term "error," and the conversation reflects differing perspectives on how errors should be treated in calculations.

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I'm having a problem with something I know should be simple, but my answer is off so I'm doing something wrong.

I need to find the amount of error for an acceleration that was found using the formula a=2d/t^2. Where d represents distance travelled. There is no uncertainty in the distance measurement, only the time.

Could someone please help.
 
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[tex]\Delta a=\left|\Delta \left(\frac{2d}{t^{2}}\right)\right| =4dt^{-3} \Delta t[/tex]

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
[tex]\Delta a=\left|\Delta \left(\frac{2d}{t^{2}}\right)\right| =4dt^{-3} \Delta t[/tex]

Daniel.
Just in case you're also interested in the SIGN of the error "Δa" in "a" for a given error "Δt" in "t":

[tex]1: \ \ \ \ \Delta a \ = \ \Delta \left(\frac{2d}{t^{2}}\right) \ = \ \left ( \frac{\color{red} \mathbf{-} \color{black} 4d}{t^{3}} \right ) \Delta t[/tex]


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There are no such things as negative errors.Errors always add...

I'm not interested in that minus...

Daniel.
 
Yes, reported errors are standard deviations (or they should be), and hence are always positive (the definition of standard deviation of [itex]X[/itex] is [itex]\sqrt{\mbox{Var} X}[/itex]).
 
dextercioby said:
There are no such things as negative errors.Errors always add...

I'm not interested in that minus...

Daniel.
The term "error" alone can be ambiguous. "Standard Deviation" and "Variance" are much more specific, and they are always positive and always "add":

[tex]1: \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \color{blue}\mbox{Var(a)}\color{black} \ = \ \overline { \left ( \Delta a \right )^{2}} \ = \ \overline{ \left ( \Delta \left(\frac{2d}{t^{2}}\right) \right )^{2} }\ = \ \left ( \frac{-4d}{t^{3}} \right )^{2} \overline{ \left ( \Delta t \right )^{2} } \ \ + \ \ \left ( \frac{2}{t^{2}} \right )^{2} \overline{ \left ( \Delta d \right )^{2} }[/tex]

[tex]: \hspace{9cm} \left ( For \ \ \overline{\Delta a} = \overline{\Delta t} = \overline{\Delta d} = \overline{\Delta t \Delta d} = 0 \right )[/tex]

[tex]2: \ \ \ \ \color{red}(\mbox{Standard Deviation})\color{black} \ = \ +\sqrt{\color{blue} \mbox{Var(a)}}[/tex]


The question here is what the OP had in mind. (We don't know what the OP originally meant by the term in Msg #1.) You :wink: may not be interested in the (-) sign, but the OP might have been ... thus the clarification in Msg #3.


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