Solve Impulse Problem: Average Force on Bat

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average force exerted on a bat when hitting a baseball. The problem involves concepts from physics, specifically impulse and momentum, as well as unit conversions from miles per hour to meters per second.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the impulse-momentum theorem and the importance of correctly handling unit conversions and signs in momentum calculations. There are attempts to clarify the correct approach to calculating the average force based on the change in momentum.

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Several participants have provided insights into the calculations and highlighted potential errors in unit conversions and sign conventions. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct method to compute the average force, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants emphasize the need for proper unit conversions and the significance of direction in momentum calculations. There is a mention of the imposed time constraint of 0.001 seconds for the impact duration.

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A baseball player hits a 82 mph fastball, sending it back at 120 mph. The ball has a mass of 150 g. The contact time is 0.001 s. What is the average force on the bat?

Okay, so I converted the miles to kilometres, and then used the equation F_avg*(t_2-t_1) = m_1*v_2 - m_2*-v_2, but I can't get the right answer. I even eliminated the negative sign and tried that, but it is still wrong. I can't see what else to add, so please help.
 
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Assuming you meant [itex]F_{ave} \Delta t = \Delta (mv) = m (v_f - v_i)[/itex], and you did your unit conversions properly, that should work. Note that if [itex]v_i = + 82\ \mbox{mph}[/itex], then [itex]v_f = - 120\ \mbox{mph}[/itex]. (Signs matter, since momentum is a vector.)
 
[tex]\bar{\vec{\mbox{F}}}=:\frac{\vec{\mbox{p}}_{f}-\vec{\mbox{p}}_{i}}{\Delta t}[/tex]

U know the momentum both initially and finally and u know the time of impact (in which the momentum is being transfered).

Daniel.
 
82*1.6=131.2
120*1.6=192
.15*192-.15*131.2=9.12
9.12/.001=9120

That's the answer I got the first time, but the computer says that it is wrong. Did I do everything right?
 
Check the units.U need to convert everything to SI-mKgs.

Daniel.
 
82*1.6=131.2 km
120*1.6=192 km
.15kg*192km-.15kg*131.2km=9.12kg*km
9.12kg*km/.001sec=9120
If I convert it into kgm/s it becomes 9.12*10^6N. Hmm, still wrong... Argh!
 
Azytzeen said:
82*1.6=131.2
120*1.6=192
It looks like you're converting miles to km; what you should be doing is converting miles/hour to meters/second.
.15*192-.15*131.2=9.12
Reread my comments about signs. Realize that the ball reverses direction. For example: if it comes towards the bat at 10 mph, then leaves the bat at 15 mph, the change in velocity would be: 15 - (-10) = 25 (not 15 - 10 = 5).
 
Initial momentum (negative by a choise of axis) [tex]-0.15 \ \mbox{Kg} \cdot \frac{(82\cdot 1.6) \cdot 1000 \ \mbox{m}}{3600 \ \mbox{s}}[/tex]

Final momentum (positive) [tex]+0.15\ \mbox{Kg} \cdot \frac{(120\cdot 1.6)\cdot 1000 \ \mbox{m}}{3600 \ \mbox{s}}[/tex]

Compute the 2 #-s and then subtract the negative one from the positive one.The result should be divided by the time interval.

Daniel.
 
Oh... damnnit! Thanks guys, I will try that out now.
 

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