What is the Integral for the Area of a Region Enclosed by a Parametric Equation?

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The discussion revolves around setting up an integral for the area of a region enclosed by the parametric equations x=t^2-2 and y=t^3-2t. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the area can be determined and the nature of the graph described by these equations.

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  • One participant attempts to apply the formula for area under parametric curves but struggles with determining the correct interval for t. Others question whether an enclosed region actually exists based on the graph's behavior.

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There is a mix of interpretations regarding the existence of an enclosed area. Some participants suggest that the parametrization can be interpreted in terms of implicit functions, while others express skepticism about the existence of such a region. A few participants have provided insights into the symmetry of the graph, which may influence the approach to setting up the integral.

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Participants note that the original question was presented without additional context or constraints, leading to varied interpretations of the graph's properties and the area in question.

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Hi,

I've been trying to do this one question: Let R be the region enclosed by the graph x=t^2-2 y=t^3-2t. Set up the integral for the area of R.

I know that if y is continuous function of x on an interval a ≤ x ≤ b where x=f(t) and y=g(t) then [tex]\int_{a}^{b}[/tex] y dx =[tex]\int_{t1}^{t2}[/tex] g(t)f'(t)dt provided that f(t1)=a and f(t2)=b and both g and f' are continuous on [t1,t2].

But everytime i equate and solve for t i get sqrt(2) and 1. This is where i get lost I can't seem to find the interval for parametric equations (any of them :mad: ). Other then the interval I do believe i have the rest of the integral:

[tex]\int[/tex] (t^3-2t)(2t)dt

Thanks in advance (sorry for long post as well as horrid use of that latex typing first time)
 
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PolarClaw said:
Hi,

I've been trying to do this one question: Let R be the region enclosed by the graph x=t^2-2 y=t^3-2t. Set up the integral for the area of R.

Is there any more information given?

The graph translated to [tex]y=x\sqrt{x+2}[/tex]. There doesn't seem to be any enclosed region.
 
the question copied and pasted from the pdf file is as follows:

4. Let R be the region enclosed by the graph of x = t^2 − 2, y = t^3 − 2t . (The graph was sketch for the final in 2004)

a. Set up, BUT DO NOT EVALUATE an integral for the area of R .

Thats all the info that was given :/
 
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Sorry, there is NO area "enclosed" by that graph.
 
Actually, the parametrization can be broken into the 3 implicit functions y = [itex]x\sqrt{x+2}[/itex] for [itex]t\in(0, \infty)[/itex], y = [itex]-x\sqrt{x+2}[/itex] for [itex]t\in(-\infty, 0)[/itex], and y = 0 for t = 0. The graphs of these functions enclose a region between x=0 and x=-2. Given the symmetry of the graphs of the functions (one is just a reflection in the x-axis of the other), all one needs to do is integrate the positive function on this interval and multiply by 2. :smile:
 
Thanks for the help got was able to get the answer now.
 
hypermorphism said:
Actually, the parametrization can be broken into the 3 implicit functions y = [itex]x\sqrt{x+2}[/itex] for [itex]t\in(0, \infty)[/itex], y = [itex]-x\sqrt{x+2}[/itex] for [itex]t\in(-\infty, 0)[/itex], and y = 0 for t = 0. The graphs of these functions enclose a region between x=0 and x=-2. Given the symmetry of the graphs of the functions (one is just a reflection in the x-axis of the other), all one needs to do is integrate the positive function on this interval and multiply by 2. :smile:

Oops. Yes... the minus sign. Sorry about that.
 

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