Need Help Finding Manual Solution to Sin(theta)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the sine of an angle, denoted as "sin(theta)," without the use of electronic devices such as calculators or computers. Participants explore manual mathematical methods, including the use of tables and series expansions, as well as practical approaches like drawing triangles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about manually calculating "sin(theta)" and expresses a desire for basic understanding as a foundation for advanced concepts.
  • Another participant suggests using tables of sine values, which can be computed by hand using Taylor (MacLaurin) series expansion.
  • A different participant mentions the tediousness of obtaining sine values manually but acknowledges it is possible with enough time.
  • One participant recalls using trigonometric and logarithmic tables in high school before the advent of handheld calculators, noting the practice of linear interpolation for more precision.
  • Another participant proposes measuring a triangle as a rudimentary method to estimate sine values, albeit with potential inaccuracies.
  • A later reply discusses the context of needing to find angles in 3D coordinates, mentioning the dot product as a method to determine the angle between a vector and the x-axis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and methods of manually calculating sine values. While some suggest practical approaches, others highlight the challenges and tediousness of such calculations. No consensus is reached on a preferred method.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various methods and tools from their educational experiences, indicating a reliance on historical practices before the widespread use of electronic calculators. The discussion reflects differing levels of comfort with manual calculations and the desire for efficiency.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in manual mathematical methods for trigonometric functions, students seeking foundational knowledge in trigonometry, and those curious about historical calculation techniques may find this discussion relevant.

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need a "basic" help

this may be a silly question... but, i really need this, because a basic is the stairway to the advanced of course.
i thought that this forum may provide more help than i could get in my college.
please tell me...
how do we find an answer of "sin(theta)" without an electronic device (such as calculator or computer). Can we do it manually, mathematically?
i thought that a calculator never needs a calculator's calculator to get the number. So i think there must be a way. thanks b4.
 
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There are tables of "sin" function values.Computed by hand using Taylor (MacLaurin)series expansion.If u don't find them,then u can compute them using the series expansion.I remember seing some logarithm tables for "sin" & "cos"...


Daniel.
 
ow... yeah... that reminds me of my lesson at the college. But i do hope there is a shorter way for that. anyway. Thanks a lot...
 
You won't do it manually mathematically. It is tedious (though possible) to obtain an answer to any degree of precision given enough time. Just as one could square any number by hand given enough time. But why would you?
 
beluluk said:
this may be a silly question... but, i really need this, because a basic is the stairway to the advanced of course.
i thought that this forum may provide more help than i could get in my college.
please tell me...
how do we find an answer of "sin(theta)" without an electronic device (such as calculator or computer). Can we do it manually, mathematically?
i thought that a calculator never needs a calculator's calculator to get the number. So i think there must be a way. thanks b4.

Well, if you want a computer to do it, you could write A batch file? Why would you need this to be done in the first place tough>? :rolleyes:
 
dextercioby said:
There are tables of "sin" function values.Computed by hand using Taylor (MacLaurin)series expansion.

When I was in high school, hand-held electronic calculators hadn't been invented yet, and desktop ones were very expensive. I didn't use an electronic desktop calculator until I started college. So for calculations I had a book of trig and log tables. The sine table probably had entries for at least every 0.1 degree, or perhaps every 5 minutes of arc (1/12 degree). I remember doing linear interpolation between entries, by hand, to eke out an extra significant figure.
 
Just draw a triangle,then you measure it!
It may not be very accurate,but it is a way!
 
eNathan said:
Well, if you want a computer to do it, you could write A batch file? Why would you need this to be done in the first place tough>? :rolleyes:

i need to think about it since i was looking for an operation of 3D angles. when i got a vector which is stated in spheric coordinates, suppose i the vector components are r1, phi1 and theta1. how can i find the angle between the vector and the x axis... but i think i know the answer now. I can use the dot product to find it.thanks for asking.
 

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