Comparing dQ/dt & dT/dt of a Cube & a Globe

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of the rates of heat transfer (dQ/dt) and temperature change (dT/dt) between a cube and a globe (sphere) of the same volume when subjected to the same heating and cooling conditions. The scope includes theoretical considerations of geometry, surface area, and heat transfer properties of different shapes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that, assuming identical material properties, the object with the greater surface area will have a higher rate of heat transfer and temperature change, implying that the globe would perform better than the cube.
  • Another participant counters this by stating that round shapes maximize volume relative to surface area, suggesting that the cube may dissipate heat faster.
  • A further contribution provides mathematical expressions for the volume to surface area ratios for both shapes, indicating that for the same volume, the cube has a larger radius than the sphere, which could imply different heat dissipation characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between shape, surface area, and heat transfer rates. There is no consensus on which object would have a higher dQ/dt or dT/dt, as arguments are presented for both the cube and the globe.

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Participants rely on assumptions about material properties and the geometric relationships between volume and surface area, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion does not resolve the implications of these assumptions on heat transfer rates.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying thermodynamics, heat transfer, or geometric properties of solids, particularly in the context of comparing different shapes and their thermal behaviors.

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If there is a globular object and cube which have the same volume and you heat both of these objects in same amounts of heat and leave these to cool down
1)dQ/dt of which one is higher? If so why?
2)dT/dt of which one is higher? if so why?
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Assuming both objects have the same material properties then the greater the surface area the greater the rate of change of energy/temperature. The cube will have a smaller surface area than then globular object, let's say a sphere. You can prove this by setting the volumes equal to each other, make both volumes in terms of one parameter like the radius of the sphere or the length of the cube. Then you can determine the surface areas of both and compare.
 
I thought it was exactly the opposite : round shapes have the maximum containance (volume resp. surface) at equal containing (surface resp. perimeter)...??
 
For a spherical shape, the volume to surface area relation simplifies to

[tex]\frac{\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3}{4\pi r^2} = \frac{r}{3}[/tex]

A cubic:

[tex]\frac{8R^3}{24R^2} = \frac{R}{3}[/tex]

Note for the same volume [itex]R > r[/itex] in all cases so I believe the cube would dissipate heat faster.
 

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