Verify Solutions to First Order PDEs

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The discussion revolves around verifying solutions to first order partial differential equations (PDEs). The original poster presents two PDEs for which they seek general solutions, specifically focusing on the equations involving derivatives with respect to variables x, y, and z.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss characteristic equations derived from the PDEs and explore the relationships between variables. They present their solutions and check their correctness through substitution back into the original equations. Some participants question the validity of their derived solutions and seek clarification on potential errors in their reasoning.

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The discussion is active, with participants verifying their approaches and solutions. Some have provided guidance on checking solutions, while others are exploring different methods and interpretations of the equations. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the second solution, as participants are still examining their findings.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of guidance provided. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the derived solutions satisfy the original PDEs, and some participants express uncertainty regarding their calculations.

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Just need some verification.

Question 1

Find the general solutions of the following first order PDE

[tex]z_x - yz_y = z[/tex]

Question 2

Find the general solution of the following first order PDE

[tex]x^2z_x+y^2z_y = xy[/tex]
 
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Solution to Question 1

The first thing I did was find the characteristic equations of which I want to combine to form a surface of solutions.

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = -y[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dz}{dx} = z[/tex]

Solving these gives me

[tex]y = c_1e^{-x}[/tex]
[tex]z = c_2e^x[/tex]

In proper form...

[tex]c_1 = ye^x[/tex]
[tex]c_2 = ze^{-x}[/tex]

So the general solution is

[tex]c_2 = g(c_1)[/tex]


[tex]z = e^xg(ye^x)[/tex]

Checking this solution is correct, I computed

[tex]z_x = e^xg(ye^x) + e^xg'(ye^x)ye^x = e^xg(ye^x) + ye^{2x}g'(ye^x)[/tex]

[tex]z_y = e^xg'(ye^x)e^x = e^{2x}g'(ye^x)[/tex]

And substitute these into the initial PDE we get

[tex]z_x - yz_y = e^xg(ye^x) + ye^{2x}g'(ye^x) - y(e^{2x}g'(ye^x))[/tex]
[tex]\quad = e^xg(ye^x) + ye^{2x}g'(ye^x) - ye^{2x}g'(ye^x)[/tex]
[tex]\quad = e^xg(ye^x)[/tex]
[tex]\quad = z[/tex]

Note that I had earlier defined [itex]z = e^xg(ye^x)[/itex]
 
Yes,it looks okay.Can u do the same with the second...?

Daniel.
 
Characteristic Equations are

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{y^2}{x^2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dz}{dx} = \frac{y}{x}[/tex]

Solving these two differential equations...

(1)
[tex]\int\frac{dy}{y^2} = \int\frac{dx}{x^2}[/tex]
[tex]-\frac{1}{y} = -\frac{1}{x} + c_1[/tex]
[tex]c_1 = \frac{1}{x} - \frac{1}{y}[/tex]

(2)
[tex]\int dz = \int\frac{ydx}{x}[/tex]
[tex]z = y\ln x + c_2[/tex]
[tex]c_2 = z - y\ln x[/tex]

Hence the general solution is [itex]c_2 = g\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right)[/itex].

[tex]z - y\ln x = g\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right)[/tex]

[tex]z = g\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right) + y\ln x[/tex]

However when I check this I don't get equality...

[tex]z_x = g'\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right)\left(-\frac{1}{x^2}\right) + \frac{y}{x}[/tex]

[tex]z_y = g'\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right)\left(\frac{1}{y^2}\right) + \ln x[/tex]

And

[tex]x^2z_x - y^2z_y = -g'\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right)+ \frac{y}{x} - g'\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right) - y^2 \ln x[/tex]
[tex]\neq g\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right) + y\ln x[/tex]

And I can't see that I made an error in obtaining [itex]z = g\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}\right)[/itex]

Can anyone see where I went wrong?
 
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Hello Oxymoron,

I also get:

[tex]c_1 = \frac{1}{x} - \frac{1}{y}[/tex]

However at that point, I am to let:

[tex]w= \frac{1}{x} - \frac{1}{y}\quad\text{ and }\quad r=y[/tex]

Letting:

[tex]V(w,r)\equiv z(x,y)[/tex]

and substituting into the original equation, I end up with:

[tex]r^2V_r-\frac{r^2}{wr+1}=0[/tex]

Solving for V(w,r) I get:

[tex]V(w,r)=\frac{1}{w}ln(wr+1)+F(w)[/tex]

substituting back x and y I get:

[tex]z(x,y)=\frac{xy}{y-x}ln[\frac{y-x}{x}+1]+F[\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{y}][/tex]

That is, I'm not familiar with your use of (2) above. However backsubstitution of this does satisfy the PDE.
 

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