Throwing relativity out the window

[eNathan]

:surprisedOk, without criticism can we all just accept for argument sake a newtonian spacetime? That is - without relativity.

Ok, i'm going to try to describe something that I thought of a long time ago (considering time travel when I knew not of relativity).

If information travels through light, what things would happen if we travel faster than light? Will you be not seen by others while you are passing them? And they only see you after you have passed them?

[Ich]

If you accept additionally an ether, all would be the way it is with sound. You will have cerenkov light even in vacuum.

[Phobos]

without criticism can we all just accept for argument sake a newtonian spacetime? That is - without relativity.

In the Relativity forum?!?
sorry - gotta move this

[Alkatran]

:surprisedOk, without criticism can we all just accept for argument sake a newtonian spacetime? That is - without relativity.

Ok, i'm going to try to describe something that I thought of a long time ago (considering time travel when I knew not of relativity).

If information travels through light, what things would happen if we travel faster than light? Will you be not seen by others while you are passing them? And they only see you after you have passed them?

AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA *breath* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm sorry, I just can't believe the idea of dropping a scientific theory "for the sake of argument" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

And then you talk about going faster than light, which can't be done according to relativity!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Please. PLEASE PLEASE learn about relativity before you say such stupid things. What you just said might as well be
Ok, without criticism can we all just accept for argument sake a flat earth? That is - without curvature

Ok, i'm going to try to describe something that I thought of a long time ago (considering gravity when I knew not of curvature).

If gravity forces us down, what would happen if we were on the bottom of the earth? Will you fall off the planet?

[Spin_Network]

:surprisedOk, without criticism can we all just accept for argument sake a newtonian spacetime? That is - without relativity.

Ok, i'm going to try to describe something that I thought of a long time ago (considering time travel when I knew not of relativity).

If information travels through light, [I]what things would happen if we travel faster than light? Will you be not seen by others while you are passing them?
And they only see you after you have passed them?

For the sake of argument lets analyze your knowledge of descriptive speech?

If information travels through light
Is this information another form of LIGHT?..is it the Encyclopedia Galactica?

what things would happen if we travel faster than light?
You would be travelling faster than the transportation medium (Light) that supports you, according to your first argument!

Will you be not seen by others while you are passing them?
My argument is that you have the first four words the wrong way around, thus:You Will not be seen by others while you are passing them?


And they only see you after you have passed them

What information are they using to 'see' an after-event?..I mean you have said they have passed you by, which is a non-interacting scenario? :tongue2:

Dont worry though, Relativity invokes the reader to extend their imagination to extro-ordinary corners(see I to can mis-use words!) of their minds.

Enjoy to learn, that is all you can do :smile:

[Phobos]

No, Alkatran, he said "WITHOUT criticism".

How about a rephrase...?
"What are the consequences of FTL travel in a purely Newtonian universe?" (e.g., light still travels at 186,000 miles per second but there's no ultimate speed limit...or time dilation...or length contraction...etc.)