Solving Low T, High B Behavior of (deltaE)^2 = C*[sinh(a*B)]^-2

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around analyzing the behavior of the function (deltaE)^2 = C*[sinh(a*B)]^-2, particularly in the context of low temperature (high B) and high temperature (low B) limits. The original poster is preparing for a qualifying exam and seeks to understand the function's behavior without computational tools.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the asymptotic behavior of the function as B approaches large values, with some exploring the implications of the exponential form of sinh. Questions arise about the nature of the decay (e.g., whether it behaves like 1/B or 1/B^2) and the potential for power series expansions.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the limits of the function, with some participants providing insights into the exponential decay. While there is no explicit consensus, the discussion is productive, with participants clarifying their understanding of the function's behavior as B increases.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, focusing on theoretical understanding rather than computational solutions. The original poster expresses a desire for clarity on the behavior of the function at low temperatures, which is tied to the energy fluctuations of a quantum harmonic oscillator.

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I'm studying for the qualifying exam and I came across a problem that I'd be able to do in a snap if I had a computer running mathematica in front of me, but regretably I am having trouble with using good old paper and pencil and a reasonable amount of time. I want to look at the low and high temperature behaviour of the function

(deltaE)^2 = C*[sinh(a*B)]^-2

where B = 1/T and the rest are constants. I would like to know not just the limit, but the behaviur of the function. ie I could get that in the high T small B limit the function goes like T^2, I am having difficulty with the low T, high B limit. This is connected with the energy fluctiations of a quantum harmonic osccillator if anyone wants a reference point.

Any ideas?
thanks
 
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sinh(x)=(exp(x)-exp(-x))/2
so
sinh(x) goes like exp(x)/2 for x large
 
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Thats a start. Are you suggesting that I invert that relationship and square it ? I don't know if that will work. The function e^x also can be expanded around the point zero. where its behaviour goes like 1 + x. For the high B regime I think you have to use the definition that B = 1/T and expand around a small number, but I'm not sure how to do that.
 
Allday said:
Thats a start. Are you suggesting that I invert that relationship and square it ? I don't know if that will work. The function e^x also can be expanded around the point zero. where its behaviour goes like 1 + x. For the high B regime I think you have to use the definition that B = 1/T and expand around a small number, but I'm not sure how to do that.
So you have
(deltaE)^2 = C*[sinh(a*B)]^-2
B large
(deltaE)^2 = C*[exp(a*B)/2]^-2
(deltaE)^2 = 4*C*exp(-2*a*B)
This goes like 0 (if a is positive).
If goes like 0 is not close enough I do not know what you would want as it goes to 0 pretty fast and it is difficult to find other representations.
 
It goes to zero as B becomes large this is true. But does it go to zero like 1/B like 1/B^2 ... that's the thing I'm trying to figure out. I am haven't played with it much today, thanks for looking at it. If I can clarify what I mean Ill post it
 
Allday said:
It goes to zero as B becomes large this is true. But does it go to zero like 1/B like 1/B^2 ... that's the thing I'm trying to figure out. I am haven't played with it much today, thanks for looking at it. If I can clarify what I mean Ill post it
It goes to zero exponentially. If you want an expansion in terms of rational functions, none will be useful as it goes to 0 faster than x^y for any negative y. How big is the B you want?
for instance
exp(-20)~2*10^-9
 
Ahhh, I get it now. I was thinking that even though it goes exponentially that there would be some power that would come out. Now I see that's impossible. The terms in the series just continure to grow so there is no leading term. Thanks for the help.
 

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