Zeta(2) = pi^2/6 and zeta(4) = pi^4/90 what is zeta(3)?

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The discussion revolves around the values of the Riemann zeta function at specific integers, particularly zeta(2) and zeta(4), and the inquiry into the value of zeta(3). Participants explore potential methods for determining zeta(3), including the use of Fourier series, and discuss the relationship between zeta values and Bernoulli numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the known values of zeta(2) and zeta(4) and asks about zeta(3), suggesting the use of Fourier series.
  • Another participant mentions that zeta values for even integers have simple representations involving pi and Bernoulli numbers, while no such expressions exist for odd integers like zeta(3).
  • A participant seeks clarification on what Bernoulli numbers are.
  • Another participant corrects the spelling of "Bernulli" to "Bernoulli" and provides a link for further information.
  • One participant explains Bernoulli numbers as coefficients in a specific series and describes their relationship to zeta values, including formulas for even and odd zeta values.

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Participants generally agree on the known values of zeta(2) and zeta(4) and the lack of simple expressions for zeta(3), but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the actual value of zeta(3 and the methods to approach it.

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The discussion includes references to mathematical concepts such as Bernoulli numbers and their definitions, but does not resolve the inquiry into zeta(3) or the effectiveness of Fourier series in this context.

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Readers interested in number theory, the Riemann zeta function, or mathematical series may find this discussion relevant.

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i know that zeta(2) = pi^2/6 and zeta(4) = pi^4/90

what is zeta(3)? can i use Fourier series?
 
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zeta(n) n=2,4,6,8,...
have simple representations in terms of pi and bernulli numbers
for n=3,5,7,9,...
no such expressions have been found
 
thanks, but what are bernulli numbers?
 
Bernoulli numbers are the coefficients [tex]B_k[/tex] of:

[tex]\frac{t}{e^t-1}=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}B_k\frac{t^k}{k!}[/tex]

They begin [tex]B_0=1,\ B_1=-1/2,\ B_2=1/6[/tex] and can also be defined from the Bernoulli polynomials (I can supply their definition as well, but you can also use google for things like this).

They are related to zeta as:

[tex]\zeta(2m)=\frac{-(2\pi i)^{2m}}{(2m)!.2}B_{2m}[/tex]

for any nonnegative integer m. The functional equation can then give:

[tex]\zeta(1-2m)=\frac{-B_{2m}}{2m}[/tex]

for m a positive integer.
 

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