Solve Intersection Points of f(x) & g(x) with Algebra

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The discussion revolves around finding the intersection points of the functions f(x) = 6sqrt(x) and g(x) = (x+5)²/36 using algebraic methods. Participants explore the feasibility of solving this problem and the implications of using inverses in their reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss setting f(x) equal to g(x) and squaring both sides to eliminate the square root, leading to a fourth-degree polynomial. Some express uncertainty about the effectiveness of using the inverse of g(x) in this context.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of methods to solve the fourth-degree polynomial resulting from the intersection problem. Some participants have shared insights about the nature of the polynomial and potential approaches, but no consensus has been reached on a specific solution method.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the fourth-degree polynomial and the caution needed when squaring both sides of the equation, as it may introduce extraneous solutions. There is also mention of existing formulas for solving fourth-degree equations, which may influence their approach.

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Hi guys, I'm just wondering is it possible to solve the following using algebra to obtain the points of intersection of the two curves f(x) = 6sqrt(x) and
g(x) = [(x+5)^2]/36

I got to the point where i reconized that the inverse of g(x) = 6sqrt(x) - 5 which looks a lot like the function f(x), any hints or solutions to this problem?
 
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Yes, the inverse of g is f(x)- 5. I don't know that that helps a lot in finding points of intersection.

The only way I see of finding the points of intersection is to set f(x)= g(x), square both sides to get rid of the square root, and solve the resulting fourth degree equation
 
I don't know if you can get there your way (something with the inverse) but tehcnically, it's solvable since you get a 4th-degree polynomial. It won't be 'fun' though. Of course, watch out for introducing solution when squaring.

[tex]\frac{{\left( {x + 5} \right)^2 }}<br /> {{36}} = 6\sqrt x \Leftrightarrow \left( {\frac{{\left( {x + 5} \right)^2 }}<br /> {{36}}} \right)^2 = \left( {6\sqrt x } \right)^2 \Leftrightarrow \frac{{\left( {x + 5} \right)^4 }}<br /> {{1296}} - 36x = 0[/tex]

If you'd want to know, mathematica gives me:

[tex]\begin{gathered}-5 + \frac{{\sqrt{\frac{{\left( 29386561536 - 120932352\,{\sqrt{57549}} \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}}}{3} + <br /> 72\,2^{\frac{2}{3}}\,{\left( 3\,\left( 243 + {\sqrt{57549}} \right) \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}}}}}{2} - \hfill \\<br /> \frac{{\sqrt{\frac{-{\left( 29386561536 - 120932352\,{\sqrt{57549}} \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}} - <br /> 216\,2^{\frac{2}{3}}\,{\left( 3\,\left( 243 + {\sqrt{57549}} \right) \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}} + <br /> \frac{279936}<br /> {{\sqrt{\frac{{\left( 29386561536 - 120932352\,{\sqrt{57549}} \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}}}{3} + <br /> 72\,2^{\frac{2}{3}}\,{\left( 3\,\left( 243 + {\sqrt{57549}} \right) \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}}}}}}<br /> {3}}}}{2}\end{gathered}[/tex]

and

[tex]\begin{gathered}-5 + \frac{{\sqrt{\frac{{\left( 29386561536 - 120932352\,{\sqrt{57549}} \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}}}{3} + <br /> 72\,2^{\frac{2}{3}}\,{\left( 3\,\left( 243 + {\sqrt{57549}} \right) \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}}}}}{2} + \hfill \\<br /> \frac{{\sqrt{\frac{-{\left( 29386561536 - 120932352\,{\sqrt{57549}} \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}} - <br /> 216\,2^{\frac{2}{3}}\,{\left( 3\,\left( 243 + {\sqrt{57549}} \right) \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}} + <br /> \frac{279936}<br /> {{\sqrt{\frac{{\left( 29386561536 - 120932352\,{\sqrt{57549}} \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}}}{3} + <br /> 72\,2^{\frac{2}{3}}\,{\left( 3\,\left( 243 + {\sqrt{57549}} \right) \right) }^{\frac{1}{3}}}}}}<br /> {3}}}}{2}\end{gathered}[/tex]

which are approx: [itex]x \to 0.013452\, \wedge \,x \to 29.150[/itex]
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Yes, the inverse of g is f(x)- 5. I don't know that that helps a lot in finding points of intersection.

The only way I see of finding the points of intersection is to set f(x)= g(x), square both sides to get rid of the square root, and solve the resulting fourth degree equation

Oh, with the inverse thing, i just remembered doing a question a while ago that involved finding the points of intersection between two inverse functions, it was much easier to computer the intersection between one of the functions and y = x since inverse always intersect along that line.

How do i go about solving the 4th degree polynomial?
 

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