Work Done on a Book: 14 J or 42 J?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done on a book in two different scenarios: lifting it to a shelf and pushing it across a floor. The subject area includes concepts of work, force, and friction in physics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the calculation of work done in lifting and pushing the book, questioning the application of forces and the use of previous results in new contexts. Some participants raise concerns about unit consistency and the relevance of friction in the calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on calculations and questioning assumptions about the application of forces. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance is being offered regarding the correct interpretation of forces and work.

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Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings about the relationship between work, force, and distance, as well as the implications of friction in the context of the problem.

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Am I doing this correctly?
If a book that weighs 7 N is picked up off the floor and put on a shelf 2 m high, the work done on the book would be W = Fd (7N)(2m) = 14 J

If the same 7 N book is slid under the bookcase 3 m away, with a pushing force of 5 N and a frictional opposing force of 2 N, then the work done is

F = F(push) - f(friction) = 5 N - 2 N = 3 N then W = Fd (3N)(3m) = 9 J OR
should I be taking the 14 J from the first part and using
W = Fd = (14 J)(3m) = 42 J
Thank you for your help
 
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Work = Force_applied * distance. Your first attempt at the second question is close, the second is way off. First of all, why would you be using the number from the previous question? In the first one, you're lifting a book, and in this one, you're pushing it. Second of all, 14 J is a measure of work, so how could you use that as your value for force? And why would 14 J x 3 m = 42 J? Look at the units.
 
So, W = Force applied x distance would be 5N(the push) x 3 m = 8J.
The 2N of frictional force is one of those informational numbers and not
one used in the formula?
 
Yes, but 5 x 3 is not 8.
 
Hmm... THAT is what I get for trying to do too many things at once! Of course, 5 x 3 = 15, geez...I need a vacation!
 
Notice that since the applied force (5 N) is greater than the friction force (2 N), the book will not just "slide" under the desk. There will be 2 N "net" force on it which will result in an acceleration. The book will wind up under the desk, not stopped but with a net speed (and so kinetic energy). That's where that additional 9 Joules goes.
 

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