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amcavoy
Aug27-05, 04:20 PM
"Find the volume of the solid that lies within the sphere x^2+y^2+z^2=4, above the x-y plane, and below the cone z=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}."

I set this up in polar coordinates as follows:

V=\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{2}}r^2drd\theta+\ int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{2}r\sqrt{4-r^2}drd\theta

and then solved it coming up with V=\frac{8\pi\sqrt{2}}{3}.

Is this the correct way to set this up? Also, is there a way I could do this with one double integral rather than adding two of them together?

Thanks for your help.

HallsofIvy
Aug28-05, 12:14 PM
I think that will work but the way I would analyze it is this: On the sphere, z= \sqrt{4- x^2-y^2}= \sqrt{4- r^2}. On the cone, z= \sqrt{x^2+ y^2}= r. So the "height" at each point is \sqrt{4- r^2}- r. You want to integrate that, times dA= rdrd\theta, over the disk inside the intersection of the two figures projected down to the xy-plane.
The sphere and cone intersect when \sqrt{4- r^2}= r or 4- r^2= r^2[/tex] so r2= 2 or r= \sqrt{2} just as you have.

The volume is [tex]\int_{\theta= 0}^{2\pi}\int_{r=0}^{\sqrt{2}}\left(\sqrt{4- r^2}- r\right)rdrd\theta.


Personally, I would put it in spherical coordinates and do it as a single triple integral:
\theta goes from 0 to 2\pi, \phi goes from 0 (vertical) to \frac{\pi}{4} (the cone) and \rho goes from 0 to 2 (the sphere). Integrate dV= \rho sin(\phi)d\theta d\phi d\rho over that.

amcavoy
Aug28-05, 02:50 PM
Ok that makes sense. Thanks for your help HallsofIvy :smile:

TD
Aug28-05, 03:05 PM
Ivy, I computed your approach as well and I don't find the same as your first solution, and they're both different from apmcavoy's answer.

I get:

\int_{\theta= 0}^{2\pi}\int_{r=0}^{\sqrt{2}}\left(\sqrt{4- r^2}- r\right)rdrd\theta = \frac{-8\,\left( -2 + {\sqrt{2}} \right) \,\pi }{3}

While:

\int\limits_0^{2} {\int\limits_0^{{\raise0.5ex\hbox{$\scriptstyle \pi $}
\kern-0.1em/\kern-0.15em
\lower0.25ex\hbox{$\scriptstyle 4$}}} {\int\limits_0^{2 \pi} {\rho \sin \left( \phi \right)} } } d\theta d\phi d\rho = -2\,\left( -2 + {\sqrt{2}} \right) \,\pi

Any idea what's wrong?

amcavoy
Aug28-05, 03:56 PM
Ivy, I computed your approach as well and I don't find the same as your first solution, and they're both different from apmcavoy's answer.

I get:

\int_{\theta= 0}^{2\pi}\int_{r=0}^{\sqrt{2}}\left(\sqrt{4- r^2}- r\right)rdrd\theta = \frac{-8\,\left( -2 + {\sqrt{2}} \right) \,\pi }{3}

While:

\int\limits_0^{2} {\int\limits_0^{{\raise0.5ex\hbox{$\scriptstyle \pi $}
\kern-0.1em/\kern-0.15em
\lower0.25ex\hbox{$\scriptstyle 4$}}} {\int\limits_0^{2 \pi} {\rho \sin \left( \phi \right)} } } d\theta d\phi d\rho = -2\,\left( -2 + {\sqrt{2}} \right) \,\pi

Any idea what's wrong?

I may be wrong, but doesn't \int_{\theta= 0}^{2\pi}\int_{r=0}^{\sqrt{2}}\left(\sqrt{4- r^2}- r\right)rdrd\theta represent the volume above the cone and within the sphere?

shooter
Nov3-05, 04:48 AM
Ivy, I computed your approach as well and I don't find the same as your first solution, and they're both different from apmcavoy's answer.
I get:
\int_{\theta= 0}^{2\pi}\int_{r=0}^{\sqrt{2}}\left(\sqrt{4- r^2}- r\right)rdrd\theta = \frac{-8\,\left( -2 + {\sqrt{2}} \right) \,\pi }{3}
While:
\int\limits_0^{2} {\int\limits_0^{{\raise0.5ex\hbox{$\scriptstyle \pi $}
\kern-0.1em/\kern-0.15em
\lower0.25ex\hbox{$\scriptstyle 4$}}} {\int\limits_0^{2 \pi} {\rho \sin \left( \phi \right)} } } d\theta d\phi d\rho = -2\,\left( -2 + {\sqrt{2}} \right) \,\pi
Any idea what's wrong?

try changing from psin to p^2sin. :)