What is the Net Force on a Helium Nucleus Due to Proton and Electron Charges?

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The problem involves calculating the net force on a helium nucleus due to the electric charges of a proton and an electron positioned at specific coordinates. The context is rooted in electrostatics, specifically applying Coulomb's law to determine forces between charged particles.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Coulomb's law to find the forces exerted by the proton and electron on the helium nucleus. There are questions about the calculations, particularly regarding the units used for distance and the resulting force magnitudes.

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Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the distance conversions used in the calculations, suggesting that the original poster may have confused nanometers with millimeters. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these unit discrepancies on the calculated forces.

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Participants note the importance of using consistent units when performing calculations, particularly in the context of electrostatic forces. The original poster's confusion about the magnitude of the forces is acknowledged, with emphasis on the need for clarity in unit conversions.

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A proton is on the x-axis at x= 1.6nm. An electron is on the y-axis at y=0.85nm. Find the net force the two exert on a helium nucleus (charge + 2e) at the orgin.

there's a solution from the book, but i don't really understand it:
k = 9X10^9 N*m^2 and e=1.6*10^-19

Coulomb force of the proton on the helium nucleus is F_pHe = k(e)(2e)(-i)/(1.6mm)^2 = -0.180i*nN (i get 1.8X10^-28 instead)

for the y:
FeHe= k(-e)(2e)(-j)/(.85nm)^2 = 0.638j nN (i get 6.377 X 10^-28)

the answer would be -0.180i*nN + 0.638j nN right? i just don't know why my numbers are so small
 
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Whatupdoc said:
A proton is on the x-axis at x= 1.6nm. An electron is on the y-axis at y=0.85nm.
there's a solution from the book, but i don't really understand it:
k = 9X10^9 N*m^2 and e=1.6*10^-19
Coulomb force of the proton on the helium nucleus is F_pHe = k(e)(2e)(-i)/(1.6mm)^2 = -0.180i*nN (i get 1.8X10^-28 instead)...
i just don't know why my numbers are so small


The distances given was in nm-s (10^-9 m) but you used mm-s (10^-3). or you even have forgotten that 10^-3, too.

ehild
 
(9X10^9 N*m^2)(1.6*10^-19)(2(1.6*10^-19))(-i)/(1.6mm)^2 = 1.8X10^-28

right? i did use 10^9
 
no, for the distance you just used 1.6 m .
enter the distance into your calculator as (1.6E-9 [m])^2

and be sure to use the EXP button (or EE button) ,
NOT the ambiguous sequence / 1.6 x 10 ^-9 ^2 !
 

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