How Do You Calculate Tension and Acceleration in a Two-Block Pulley System?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension and acceleration in a two-block pulley system involving an inclined plane and friction. The original poster describes the setup with specific masses and angles, indicating a need to find these two unknowns based on the forces acting on each block.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss applying Newton's 2nd law to each block separately to derive equations for tension and acceleration. There are attempts to calculate tension using different approaches, and questions arise regarding the correctness of these calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on applying the fundamental principles of mechanics, suggesting the need for separate equations for each block. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations, with no consensus on the correct values yet.

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Participants note the presence of friction on one block and the inclination of the plane, which may complicate the calculations. There is also mention of a discrepancy in the calculated tension values, indicating potential misunderstandings or errors in the setup or calculations.

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Block1 has a mass of 8.63 kg and block2 has a mass of 1.24 kg. b1 is on an inclined plane with no friction. The plane is 30 degrees from the horizontal. b1 is connected to b2 with a string-pully system (no mass or friction). b2 is on a horizontal plane witha kinetic friction of .145 Block m1 is sliding down, pulling block m2. I have to find the tension in the string and the acceleration of the blocks. so i did this:

(mass(b1) * 9.81 * sin 30) + (mass(b2) * 9.81 * .145) = T

to find the tension which equals 44.09 which is not the answer. I can find the acceleration once i get the tension i believe by f=ma.
 
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The most straightforward way to solve this problem is by separately applying Newton's 2nd law to each block. Combine those equations to solve for the tension and acceleration, the two unknowns. (Since the blocks are connected, they both have the same acceleration.)
 
i tried F=ma and i got 22.045 N and it still doesn't work
 
Did you do what I suggested? Apply F=ma to each block separately. You'll get two equations.
 
yeah i did it and i got :

(U*g*m(2) + m(1)*g* sin(theta))/2 = T

so it was (1.7638 + 42.37) /2 = 22.04 = T

but it is not right
 
Analyze each block separately:
(a) Identify the forces on m1; Apply F = ma to m1.
(b) Identify the forces on m2; Apply F = ma to m2.

You'll get two equations. Do this.
 

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