HOw many solutions does this echelon matrix have? Mine isn't right :\

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The discussion revolves around determining the number of solutions for various systems represented by reduced row-echelon forms of augmented matrices. The subject area pertains to linear algebra and matrix theory.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the reduced row-echelon forms, questioning the conditions under which systems have unique, infinitely many, or no solutions. They discuss the significance of the last column in relation to the equations represented by the rows.

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Some participants have offered interpretations of the matrices and the conditions for different types of solutions. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the classifications of the solutions, with no explicit consensus reached on the correctness of the original poster's answers.

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Participants note the importance of the relationship between the number of equations and variables, as well as the implications of having rows of zeros in the context of the solutions. There is mention of potential errors in the original poster's reasoning, but no specific resolutions are provided.

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Hello everyone
The reduced row-echelon forms of the augmented matrices of four systems are given below. How many solutions does each system have?
Here is the matrices:
1 0 -12 0
0 1 0 0
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 0

A. Infinitely many solutions
B. No solutions
C. Unique solution
D. None of the above
I said No solutions because 0 does not equal 1

0 1 0 -15
0 0 1 7

A. No solutions
B. Unique solution
C. Infinitely many solutions
D. None of the above

I said Unqiue solution because y = 1, z = 7.

1 0 0 8
0 0 1 0

A. Unique solution
B. Infinitely many solutions
C. No solutions
D. None of the above

I said unique solution because, y = 8, and z = 0;

1 0 11
0 1 9
0 0 0
A. Unique solution
B. No solutions
C. Infinitely many solutions
D. None of the above

I said Infinitely many solutions because you have a line of 0 0 0.
NOw i submitted the answer but it said at least 1 is wrong, so i don't know iif they are all wrong or just 1 of them, any help would be great.
 
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Since these are the reduced row-echelon forms of the augmented matrices, remember that the last column represents the constant and that every row is still an equation.

After having reduced them, you can leave out all the 0 row's, that means row that have all 0's in every column. These are superfluous.

When you end up with exactly the same number of equations (eq) as variables (var), then there is a unique solution.
If you end up with less eq than var, there will be infinitely many solutions.

But! You have to be careful if you get rows which have 0's for all the coëfficiënts but not 0 in the last column, of the constant. Back translated into an equation, this means something like [tex]0x+0y+0z=c[/tex], with c a constant different from 0. That is of course, not possible. In this case, your system has no solutions.
 
thanks! I think i got this right...
So for
1 0 -12 0
0 1 0 0
0 0 0 1

no solutions because 0 != 1

0 1 0 -15
0 0 1 7

unqiue solution

1 0 0 8
0 0 1 0
unqiue solution


1 0 11
0 1 9
0 0 0
Infin. many solutions because we got a 0 0 0
 
Although you have a 0-row in the last one, you still end up with an equal amount of unknowns and equations, so that yields a unique solution. You only have infinite solutions if your system is underdeterminate, that means that you end up with more variables than equations so you get to "choose" one or more variables (let x = s etc...)
 
Thanks again TD! it worked fine after a few tries!
 
Great :smile:
 

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