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imi
Nov16-03, 10:18 PM
Is it possible to predict the future state of a system without using time as a factor?

russ_watters
Nov17-03, 11:20 AM
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but let me try an analogy and see if you think it fits: consider an equation such as y=2x. Is it possible to calculate "y" without knowing "x"? No.

hey.like
Nov21-03, 08:20 PM
If the time phys relations is exist. the progress is determind. as this serious , the time can determind in another.

Unit_Zer0
Nov22-03, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by imi
Is it possible to predict the future state of a system without using time as a factor?

no i wouldnt' imagine it would. because your using time as a measuring stick (the future) so any predictions on the future would be based on the extent of time that passes. unless it pretains to the status if nonexistant things (like the lotto numbers)

Integral
Nov22-03, 10:32 AM
How do you define the "future" without refering to time?

jcsd
Nov22-03, 12:09 PM
The simple answer would be: it depends on whether the system is time-dependent, if it is as most systems are then no.

Interestingly, I am lead to believe that time 'disappears' from the Wheeler-Dewitt equation.