Solving complex number equations

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation (z^4-2+i)(z^2+1-i)=0, specifically focusing on the quadratic factor (z^2+1-i)=0. Participants are exploring the use of the quadratic formula and the conversion of complex numbers between polar and Cartesian forms.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants question the coefficients a, b, and c in the context of the quadratic formula. There is a discussion about whether the quadratic formula is necessary for the problem, with some suggesting that taking the square root directly may be more appropriate.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to convert complex numbers into polar form and have discussed the implications of using the quadratic formula versus taking square roots directly. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the representation of complex numbers in different forms.

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Participants are addressing the need to express answers in both polar and Cartesian forms, with specific attention to the principal argument in polar coordinates. There is also mention of constraints related to homework rules and the need for clarity in definitions.

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Hello, I am trying to solve

(z^4-2+i)(z^2+1-i)=0

With the quadratic formula:

(z^2+1-i)=0

Does a=1, b=1 & c=-1?

Thanks for your time.

IM meant to

(a) Give answers in polar form using the principal argument;
(b) Give answers in cartesian form

Cartesian is (x,y) is it not and polar is (r,theta) I am just not sure about the principal argument.
 
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deryk said:
Does a=1, b=1 & c=-1?

Thanks for your time.
No, a=1, b=0, and c=(1-i) because "a" is the coefficient of z^2, "b" is the coefficient of z and "c" is the constant term.
 
deryk said:
Hello, I am trying to solve

(z^4-2+i)(z^2+1-i)=0

With the quadratic formula:

(z^2+1-i)=0

Does a=1, b=1 & c=-1?

Thanks for your time.

IM meant to

(a) Give answers in polar form using the principal argument;
(b) Give answers in cartesian form

Cartesian is (x,y) is it not and polar is (r,theta) I am just not sure about the principal argument.

To answer your questin a= 1, b= 1, and c= -i.
However, there is no reason to use the quadratic formula here- since
z2+ 1-i= 0, z2= -1+ i and you just take the square root (this is what the quadratic formula would give you anyway):
[tex]z= \sqrt{-1+ i}[/tex]

You'll want to convert that into polar form to take the square root. The answer will then be in polar form and you will need to convert back to Cartesian form.
The polar form of a+ bi is reθi where
[itex]r= sqrt{a^2+ b^2}[/itex] and [itex]\theta= tan^{-1}(\frac{b}{a})[/itex].
 
HallsofIvy said:
To answer your questin a= 1, b= 1, and c= -i.
However, there is no reason to use the quadratic formula here- since
z2+ 1-i= 0, z2= -1+ i and you just take the square root (this is what the quadratic formula would give you anyway):
[tex]z= \sqrt{-1+ i}[/tex]

You'll want to convert that into polar form to take the square root. The answer will then be in polar form and you will need to convert back to Cartesian form.
The polar form of a+ bi is reθi where
[itex]r= sqrt{a^2+ b^2}[/itex] and [itex]\theta= tan^{-1}(\frac{b}{a})[/itex].

How would you write z=+ or -(-1+i)^0.5 & z= + or - (2-i)^0.5 in polar and cartesian form? Thanks.
 
deryk said:
How would you write z=+ or -(-1+i)^0.5 & z= + or - (2-i)^0.5 in polar and cartesian form? Thanks.
Pretend the complex number under the radicand is a 2-dimensional position vector with components (-1,1) in the case of the first one. Get the argument (angle from the positive real axis) and modulus (magnitude of the vector) from that, then write it in polar form to get the roots.
 
deryk said:
How would you write z=+ or -(-1+i)^0.5 & z= + or - (2-i)^0.5 in polar and cartesian form? Thanks.

Since you copied the formulas I gave for converting from cartesian to polar coordinates, I assume you are asking about the square root:

DeMoivre's formula: If a complex number has "polar coordinates" r, θ (in other words, the number can be written r(cos θ+ i sin θ) or re) then it's square roots are
[tex]r^{\frac{1}{2}}(cos\frac{\theta}{2}+ i sin\frac{\theta}{2})[/tex]
and
[tex]r^{\rac{1}{2}}(cos(\frac{\theta}{2}+ \pi)+ i sin(\frac{\theta}{2}+\pi))[/tex]
or
[tex]r^{\frac{1}{2}}e^{\frac{\theta}{2}}[/tex]
and
[tex]r^{\frac{1}{2}}e^{(\frac{\theta}{2}+\pi)}[/tex]
 

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