Why Is the Change of Variable Theorem for Simple Integrals So Complicated?

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The discussion revolves around the complexity of the change of variable theorem for simple integrals, particularly contrasting the informal substitution method with a more rigorous approach. Participants explore the implications of these methods in calculus and their applications in integration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the change of variable theorem is often presented in a complicated manner, suggesting that the informal substitution method seems to work just as well.
  • Another participant clarifies that the rigorous approach is a generalization and emphasizes that both methods ultimately achieve the same result, albeit with different levels of detail.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the formulation of the theorem resembles a direct application of the chain rule, indicating a preference for the forward direction in some cases.
  • Participants discuss the convenience of different substitution methods depending on the integral being solved, noting that sometimes neither approach may be the simplest.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity and complexity of the rigorous approach versus the informal method. There is no consensus on which method is superior or more appropriate in all situations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the complexity may arise from the need to show all steps in the rigorous method, while others argue that the informal method suffices in practice. The discussion highlights the variability in preferences for different approaches to integration.

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Students and educators in calculus, individuals interested in mathematical rigor versus practical application, and those exploring integration techniques may find this discussion relevant.

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There's this thing I've always wondered about but never really found the answer. However, I'm sure it's obvious to many of you. It goes as follow: How come the change of variable theorem (for simple integrals) is so complicated but the fact is that it never fails to say "let's set u =... Then, du = ...", which is not at all what the change of variable theorem is saying imho.
 
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Perhaps I'm not understanding you, do you mean the substitution rule?

[tex]\int_{\varphi \left( \alpha \right)}^{\varphi \left( \beta \right)} {f\left( x \right)dx} = \int_\alpha ^\beta {f\left( {\varphi \left( t \right)} \right)\varphi '\left( t \right)dt}[/tex]
 
Yeah, that's totally what I'm talking about. Why is it formulated in terms of function phi of a variable t? For exemple, compare the two following ways of changing variables for this integral:

[tex]\int_a^b e^{k(x-2)}dx[/tex]

The "fast-substitution" way everyone use:

Set t = x - 2. then by definition of differential of a function of one variable, dt = (dt/dx)dx = (1)dx = dx. The bounds transform like so: x = a --> t = a-2, x = b --> t = b - 2. Hence, plugging all these substitutions in the original integral yields

[tex]\int_a^b e^{k(x-2)}dx = \int_{a-2}^{b-2} e^{kt}dt[/tex]


The "rigourous-substitution" way goes:

Set [itex]\varphi (t) = t + 2[/itex]. Then [itex]\varphi '(t) = 1[/tex]. [itex]\varphi (t_1) = a \Leftrightarrow t_1 + 2 = a \Leftrightarrow t_1 = a - 2[/itex]. [itex]\varphi (t_2) = b \Leftrightarrow t_2 + 2 = b \Leftrightarrow t_2 = b - 2[/itex]. So now according to the change of variable theorem,<br /> <br /> [tex]\int_a^b e^{k(x-2)}dx = \int_{a-2}^{b-2} e^{k(\varphi(t)-2)}(1)dt = \int_{a-2}^{b-2} e^{k(t)}dt[/tex]<br /> <br /> It's so much complicated. SO why is it formulated in this complicated way rather than in the simplest way, which seem to always work anyway?[/itex]
 
I believe it is just a generalization. The second way in which you did it was practically the same as the first, you just showed all of your work.

Alex
 
What do you mean precisely in this case by "a generalisation", and what do you mean by "you just showed all your work"? It seems to me I did all the steps for both ways only the "rigourous way" has naturally more steps then the "usual way".
 
The statement you're using of the change of variable theorem is the one that looks most like a direct application of the chain rule.

I.E. it's more natural to apply the transformation df(x) &rarr; f'(x) dx than it is to transform f'(x) dx &rarr; df(x)

But, I seem to remember at least one calculus text that stated the reverse formula as a corollary.


As to how people actually do the integral by hand, the forward direction would be written as the substitution x = t + 2, and worked from there.


Sometimes, the forward direction is most convenient. For example, when integrating &radic;(1-x²), the most natural thing to do is say x = sin u. Sometimes the reverse direction is more convenient, as you've observed.

Sometimes, it's most convenient to do it neither way -- I've had situations where using an implicit relation, like t² = x² + 2, gives the simplest integrand.
 
Wow that clears some things up!



P.S. Is there a calculus book you've not read Hurkyl? :-p
 
P.S. Is there a calculus book you've not read Hurkyl?
I've read all but &epsilon; of them for some &epsilon; > 0...
 
Yep, that's definitely too much of them... :devil:
 
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Fortunately calculus books have the property of all containing exactly the same thing!
 
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most of the calculus book contain the same example i have read a few.
 

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