What is the Folding Space Theory and its Potential Applications?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of folding space theory, its origins, and potential applications. Participants explore various interpretations and related ideas, including wormholes and theoretical propulsion methods, while expressing differing views on the validity and scientific grounding of the theory.

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  • Some participants question the scientific legitimacy of "folding space theory," suggesting it resembles science fiction rather than established physics.
  • Others propose that folding space may relate to wormholes, using the analogy of folding a piece of paper to illustrate how one might travel between two points.
  • A participant mentions the concept of folding space in the context of Schwarzschild black holes, discussing coordinate transformations that suggest a folding of space and time at the event horizon.
  • Another participant describes a theoretical scenario where folding space could reduce the distance between two points in space, making interstellar travel more feasible.
  • There are references to popular culture, including the "Robotech" series and "A Wrinkle in Time," as potential sources of inspiration for the concept of folding space.
  • A later reply humorously references a fictional device purportedly created by NASA, indicating skepticism about its practical application.

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Participants express a mix of skepticism and curiosity regarding folding space theory. There is no consensus on its scientific validity, and multiple competing views remain regarding its interpretation and relevance.

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Some claims rely on speculative interpretations of theoretical physics, and the discussion includes references to fictional works that may influence perceptions of the concept. The mathematical details provided are not universally accepted or clarified.

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This discussion may interest those exploring theoretical physics, science fiction concepts, and the implications of advanced propulsion theories.

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I don't know if I am posting this in the right section, I am still figuring these boards out.

Could someone explain the concept of the folding space theory? I did some research, but I would like others views on the topic.
-Seeruk
 
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"Folding space theory" sounds like science fiction to me, not real physics. Where did you hear about it?
 
I think you mean wormholes.

You are probably thinking of the popular anaology of folding a piece of paper over and being able to travel from one side of the paper to the other by traversing a hole in the folded piece of paper.

For more information you should probably look up wormholes.

If you are interested in faster than light propulsion then also look up the alcubierre warp drive as well as wormholes.
 
I first read about it in the "Robotech" series of novels...

Not sure if that's what Seeruk is talking about, though...
 
Possibly from A Wrinkle in Time too? It's been a long time since I read that though.
 
..and Dune, I believe.
 
lol.

Spice extends life...
Spice expands consciousness.
 
robousy said:
Spice extends life...
Spice expands consciousness.
Are we talking folding space or folding spice?

http://www.adventurefoods.com/afdetail.asp?Item=WST
 
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Seeruk said:
I don't know if I am posting this in the right section, I am still figuring these boards out.

Could someone explain the concept of the folding space theory? I did some research, but I would like others views on the topic.
-Seeruk
In for example Schwarzschild black holes one of the coordinate transformation equations relating Schwarzschild coordinates of space and time (t,r) to Kruskal-Szekeres coordinates of space and time (t',r') for our region external to the event horizon is
tanh(t/4GM) = t'/r'
but for the interior is
tanh(t/4GM) = r'/t'
(c=1)
The space and time coordinates actually switch places which can be interpereted as space and time folding over at the event horizon.
 
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Folding space and Stephen Hawking

I first heard about folding space in a Hawking's paper (can not remember site ), but this site says a little about it. A concept they do not really cover is this:

You take a section of space, you want to travel from point A to point B. Unfortunately for you, between the points the d = 123 light years ( made up number ) A normal human could never make this trip in their one life span, so what do we do? Fold space so that point A and point B cross each other.
Thus the distance would only take 52 light years ( again made up number ).

A-----------------------------------------------B
<---- 123 light years ---->


\---- B <--- 52 light years ---> A----/
\------------------------------------/


Sorry there really is not a way to express curvature / and \ = curves where space folded. The link shows a better picture...


http://www.slais.ubc.ca/courses/libr500/04-05-wt1/www/b_ballantyne/science_fold.htm
 
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Ooooooooooooooh.

THAT space folding.

Yup, NASA built one of those devices years ago.
They didn't think it was much use at the time though as they had more important things on their mind than exploring the cosmos like the ISS.

You can pick up the Space Time Drive (or STD) on ebay for a few hundred bucks these days. Its more expensive though if you pay in chinese yen.
 

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