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jet10
Oct7-05, 10:33 AM
I have read in an electrodynamics book that

\int d^3r \frac{\Delta\Phi(r)}{r}=\int d^3r \Phi(r)}\Delta \frac{1}{r}

is possible through partial integration. But how?? Can some one help me on this by showing me the steps? Thanks

Physics Monkey
Oct7-05, 11:01 AM
Start with the following two identities:
\int d^3 r \nabla \cdot \left( \frac{1}{r} \nabla \Phi \right) = \int d^3 r \left( \nabla \frac{1}{r} \cdot \nabla \Phi + \frac{1}{r} \Delta \Phi \right)

\int d^3 r \nabla \cdot \left( \Phi \nabla \frac{1}{r} \right) = \int d^3 r \left( \nabla \frac{1}{r} \cdot \nabla \Phi + \Phi \Delta \frac{1}{r}\right)

Now the left hand side of each equation can written as a surface integral which gives zero. This gives

\int d^3 r \left( \nabla \frac{1}{r} \cdot \nabla \Phi + \frac{1}{r} \Delta \Phi \right) = 0


\int d^3 r \left( \nabla \frac{1}{r} \cdot \nabla \Phi + \Phi \Delta \frac{1}{r} \right) = 0

but since these two expressions have the same first term you can easily see that

\int d^3 r \frac{1}{r} \Delta \Phi = \int d^3 r \Phi \Delta \frac{1}{r}

jet10
Oct7-05, 11:21 AM
Thanks for your reply. Just one thing I am not able to see yet. How are these equal to zero?

\int d^3 r \nabla \cdot \left( \frac{1}{r} \nabla \Phi \right)=\oint dA \frac{1}{r} \nabla \Phi=0?


\int d^3 r \nabla \cdot \left( \Phi \nabla \frac{1}{r} \right)=\oint dA \Phi \nabla \frac{1}{r}=0?

Physics Monkey
Oct7-05, 11:24 AM
You integrate on a surface at infinity, and with very weak assumptions about the fall off of \Phi with distance, you can show those area integrals go to zero.

jet10
Oct7-05, 11:27 AM
That's clever. Thanks!