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Kb1jij
Oct14-05, 02:51 PM
Today I came across a very strange exponential equation to which neither my teacher nor I could find a solution. It is as follows:
e^t=3t^2
This could be easily solved graphically, but could anyone show me how to do this algebraically?
Thanks in advance!

Tom Mattson
Oct14-05, 03:22 PM
I don't think it can be done.

ComputerGeek
Oct14-05, 03:41 PM
Today I came across a very strange exponential equation to which neither my teacher nor I could find a solution. It is as follows:
e^t=3t^2
This could be easily solved graphically, but could anyone show me how to do this algebraically?
Thanks in advance!

you would need a second equation describing t. then you could use substitution to solve for it.

I mean even if you used the natural logarithm you still get:

t = 2ln(3t) and that does not help you much since you still have t in terms of itself and if you then did this:

0 = 2ln(3t) - t
you can not factor out t.

that does seem to be an interesting solution set though (is there even a solution set?).

HallsofIvy
Oct14-05, 06:22 PM
In general, an equation involving a a transcendental function (such as et) and an algebraic function (such as t2) can't be solved in terms of "elementary" functions. It could, I think, be solved in terms of the "Lambert W function", which is defined as the inverse function to f(x)= xex.

(I edited this- my f(x)= xe2 was a typo.)

hotvette
Oct14-05, 10:08 PM
This reminds me of trying to solve y = x^x for a given y.:smile:

saltydog
Oct16-05, 05:34 AM
Today I came across a very strange exponential equation to which neither my teacher nor I could find a solution. It is as follows:
e^t=3t^2
This could be easily solved graphically, but could anyone show me how to do this algebraically?
Thanks in advance!

The Lambert W-function is defined as the inverse of the following:


f(x)=xe^x=y


then:


f^{-1}(y)=x=W(y)


with W being the Lambert W-function for y>-e^{-1}

If:


g(x)=x^2e^x=y


then:


g^{-1}(y)=2W(\frac{\sqrt y}{2})


and in general if:


h(x)=x^ne^x=y


then:

h^{-1}(y)=nW(\frac{y^\frac{1}{n}}{n})


Kindly proceed to express the solution of your equation in terms of this generalized Lambda W function, that is:

t=\text{some function of W}

Kb1jij
Oct16-05, 08:00 PM
Thanks for all for your input!

I thought I was just missing some easy step...
guess I was wrong!