Force and Coefficient of Friction Problem

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The problem involves a girl pushing a light snow shovel at a uniform velocity, with the handle inclined at 55 degrees to the horizontal. The discussion focuses on determining the force of friction and the coefficient of kinetic friction, given a pushing force of 100 N.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the horizontal component of the pushing force and question the implications of assuming a massless shovel on the normal force. There is uncertainty about how to determine the normal force without a given mass.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring the relationship between the forces acting on the shovel and questioning the assumptions made regarding its mass. Some guidance is offered regarding the vertical component of the force exerted by the girl.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of information regarding the mass of the shovel, which complicates the determination of the normal force and the coefficient of friction. Participants are grappling with the implications of a massless object in this context.

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Okay I'm really stumped on this question and I would be really glad if someone can take me step by step on how to do this question... I have the answer but I have no clue how to obtain it!

The Question is:
A girl pushes a light snow shovel at a uniform velocity across a sidewalk. If the handle of the shovel is inclined at 55 degrees to the horizontal and she pushes along the handle with a force of 100 N, what is the force of friction? What is the coefficient of kinetic friction?

I obtained the answer for the force of friction by just using Fhorizontal = cos55 * 100 = 58 N (answer is 57 N)

Now.. to find the coefficient.. we need to know two things right? The force of friction which we have and the normal force. But how can we know what the normal force is if we are not given mass?



However I'm not sure if that is the correct way to do it... if someone could explain how to get both answers step-by-step it would be great thanks!
 
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Assume a massless shovel (it is, after all, described as light), what would the normal force be?
 
normal force would be 0 then as there is no object for there to be a gravitational force on? but that would make everything (being coefficient of friction and force of friction.. according to the equation Ffriction = mew * Fnormal) equal to 0
 
Normal force would be the ground acting against the shovel, else the shovel would push the ground down.
 
yup but in this case, the normal force is = to the force of gravity on the shovel

if we assume if the shovel is massless... it means there's no force of gravity acting on it and therefore no normal force... correct?

i'm really confused.. so do we have to find the vertical force that she is exerting on the handle?
 
bijanv said:
yup but in this case, the normal force is = to the force of gravity on the shovel
NO, it's not- that's the whole point!

if we assume if the shovel is massless... it means there's no force of gravity acting on it and therefore no normal force... correct?
i'm really confused.. so do we have to find the vertical force that she is exerting on the handle?

You were told the girl pushed the shovel "with a force of 100 N". You correctly (approximately) calculated the horizontal component of force to be "cos55 * 100 = 58 N (answer is 57 N)". What do you think happened to the rest of the force? Where there is a "horizontal component", don't you thing there is likely to be a "vertical component"?

By the way, how did you get "58 N"? What exactly did your calculator say?
 

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