Unification of space and matter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a proposed theory that suggests a unification of space and matter through the concept of dark energy in empty space. The scope includes theoretical exploration and speculative reasoning regarding the nature of matter and its relationship with space, particularly in the context of the Big Bang.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if empty space contains dark energy, concentrating space could theoretically result in a significant amount of energy, which could then coalesce into matter, suggesting that all matter could be derived from space.
  • Another participant challenges the feasibility of the theory by asking for testable predictions and questioning how one would concentrate "a lot of space in one place at once."
  • A participant reflects on the nature of the universe before the Big Bang, suggesting that all space was once concentrated and that matter is simply space that has not been "uncramped."
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of the claim that all space in the universe was at one place at one time, with a participant emphasizing the need to understand General Relativity's concept of spacetime.
  • There is a suggestion that the theory needs to be developed further to make testable predictions in order to be considered a scientific theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and feasibility of the proposed theory. There is no consensus on the claims made, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the theoretical implications and the requirements for scientific theories.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for clearer definitions and assumptions regarding the nature of space and matter, as well as the unresolved status of the proposed theory in terms of making testable predictions.

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if empty space has dark energy. Then if you put a lot of space in one place at once then you would have a lot of energy. Then because E=mc^2 all that energy could coalesce into matter. Therefore all matter could be space.

this unifies spacetime and matter energy

this is just a theory and I want to know if it could work or not
 
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How about coming up with some ways to test your theory? ("Testable predictions").

How would you go about putting "a lot of space in one place at once"?
 
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I do not know what type of predictions this theory would make which is why I ask

all the space in the universe was at one place at one time (the time right before the big bang) and matter simply is space that did not get uncramped.
 
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not all "matter" is not still the same way as it was during the big bang. However all processes of bringing matter together still works with my theory
 
thought said:
I do not know what type of predictions this theory would make which is why I ask
all the space in the universe was at one place at one time (the time right before the big bang) and matter simply is space that did not get uncramped.

You may want to re-read and understand in better detail the various Big Bang Models. For instance, you need to understand GR's concept of spacetime. All "space in the universe was at one place at one time" is terribly wrong, because this already assume that there is such a thing as "one place at one time", and everything is there. This is absurd when spacetime didn't exist yet!

I would also strongly suggest you read again the PF guidelines regarding overly speculative posting, in case you missed it the first time around.

Zz.
 
thought said:
I do not know what type of predictions this theory would make which is why I ask.

You really ought to think about the issue some more. Note that Physics Forums currently has a separate forum for people who are proposing their own theories, as opposed to discussing standard, accepted theories. This is the independent research forum.

The independent research forum has some fairly stringent guidelines, including that the theory must be well worked out enough for it to actually make predictions. If your theory isn't this far along, you'll need to develop it to the point where it can do this, in order for it to be taken seriously.

Note that this is a general requirement for any scientific theory, not just a particular arbitrary requirement of this board. If a theory isn't worked out well enough to make testable predictions, it is not yet a scientific theory. It may become one with more time, work, and effort on the part of the theory originator at some later date, but until it can make testable predictions, a theory has not matured to the point where public discussion will be very profitable.
 

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