Understanding the Role of 'y' in Interference of Light Waves Equations

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The discussion revolves around understanding the variable 'y' in equations related to the interference of light waves. The original poster expresses confusion regarding whether 'y' represents the distance between adjacent fringes or the distance of a fringe from the origin. The context includes problems involving antennas broadcasting signals and a double-slit system with light interference.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definitions and roles of 'y' and 'delta y' in the context of fringe spacing and positioning. The original poster attempts to clarify their understanding of these variables while working through specific problems involving wavelength and fringe distances.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide equations and insights regarding the relationship between 'y', 'delta y', and fringe positioning. There is an ongoing exploration of the original poster's calculations and assumptions, particularly concerning the values used for 'd', 'L', and 'n'. The conversation reflects a lack of consensus on the correct interpretation of 'y' and its implications for solving the posed problems.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of not using the small-angle approximation and the need to clarify the definitions of variables in the equations. The original poster's calculations yield results that differ from expected answers, prompting further inquiry into the setup and assumptions made in the problems.

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Equations dealing with the interference of light waves have a variable 'delta y'. My biggest problem is understanding what 'y' represents? Does it define the distance between two adjacent fringes? Or the distance of a fringe from the origin? this scepticism might have been the reason for my confusion in these questions.

1.) Two antennas separated by 300m simultaneously broadcast identical signals of = wavelength. a.) A car is traveling north and is at 400m north of the midpoint line between the two signals. What is the wavelength?

My solution:
d=3.00m
L=1000m
n=2
y = 400m (from center/origin).

I solved for wavelength and got an answer of 60m. the correct answer is supposedly 55.7m.

Part 'b' of the question: How much further does the car have to travel to encounter the next minimum in reception? (Do not use small-angle approximation).

I understand i must be solving for the dark fringes now. But the formula is confusing since 1.) i can't use small-angle approximation, and 2.) I am still confused as to what 'y' represents.

2.) Light with wavelength 442nm passes through a double-slit system that has a slit separation of 0.400mm. Determine how far the screen must be placed away from the sources to create two fringes directly across from the slits and one frindge between those.

I have wavelength, distance between slits, and i could potentially find y. I must ultimately solve for L (length between screen and slits). Fistly, i have to find where the two fringes which are directly across the slits really are. I assumed that the top fringe is 'd' away from the bottom fringe. Since there is a nother frindge in betwee, the distance between frindges would be 0.4mm/2. Once again, my problem with 'y' haunts me. Should 'y' be the 0.2mm or something else?

Thank you.
 
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There are two equations with y.
One with y (not delta y) and 'n' which specifies which fringe you're talking about. This gives the distance of the n fringe from the middle at distance L:
y = ((n - 0.5)*wavelength*L)/d
The other one has delta y and no 'n'. This gives the distance between any two adjacent fringes at distance L. We got this equation by using the first one and subtracting the distance of the n+1 fringe from the n fringe giving the distance between them:
delta y = (wavelength*L)/d

Also, if you can't use small angle approximation, then instead of saying that
sin(angle) = (n-0.5)*wavelength/d = y/L and finding L which is really only true for tan(angle), then just find the angle by
sin(angle) = (n-0.5)*wavelength/d, and find L by doing:
tan(angle) = y/L
Hope that helped!
 
Can anyone verify the above, and also help on the other questions that i posted? Thank you.
 
Revised Question

Question number 2 was solved.

Regarding Question number1:

I use 300m for d (separation of slits), 1000m for length between "screen" and slits (Sources). Should n = 2? And should y = 400m?

Once again, i calculate 60m. But the correct answer should be 55.7m. Any ideas?
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