How many grams of water at 20 degrees Celsius can be converted into steam

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The discussion revolves around a problem in thermodynamics, specifically regarding the conversion of water at 20 degrees Celsius into steam at 500 degrees Celsius using a specified amount of energy (10 kJ). Participants are exploring the steps involved in calculating the mass of water that can be converted under these conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the need to break the problem into three steps: heating the water, converting it to steam, and heating the steam. There are questions about how to structure the equations and whether to use multiple equations or a single equation to represent the total energy.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations and calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the formulation of the energy equation, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to express heat in terms of mass. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer, as participants are still working through the calculations.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the specific heats involved and the total energy available for the conversion process. There is also a mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the separation of energy values for different steps.

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can someone give me a hand on this one?

How many grams of water at 20 degrees Celsius can be converted into steam at 500 degrees Celsius with 10 kJ of energy?

wat i know is that this question is 2 parts: Water being heated to 100 C (80 C change)using the specific heat of water n then having a temperature change of 400 C using the specific heat of steam.

wat i don't understand is how i am supposed to split up the 10 kJ? do i have to have only 1 equation?

thanks in advance
 
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sorry guys, i just realized there was a chemistry section, my bad...
 
There are three steps: (1) Heating the water, (2) converting water to steam, (3) Heating the steam.

Express the heat required for each step in terms of the mass, m. Set the total energy equal to 10 kJ. That's the equation you want.
 
okay but should i have 3 equations or 1?
 
You'll end up with a single equation. (Reread my previous post.)
 
i don't no wat u mean when u say express the heat in terms of mass
 
wat i tried was adding each step and then dividing 10000J by the sum to solve for m, i got 2.94 grams...?
 
DB said:
i don't no wat u mean when u say express the heat in terms of mass
For example: For step 1, how much heat is required to heat "m" grams of water from 20 degrees to 100 degrees?
 
okay so now I've got 3 values for "m":

[tex]m=\frac{E}{80*4.19}[/tex]

[tex]m=\frac{E}{2262}[/tex]

[tex]m=\frac{E}{400*2.01}[/tex]

now I am stuck :(
 
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There is only one "m". What you should have is three values for E: [tex]E_1, E_2, E_3[/tex]. Your equation would be: [tex]E_1 + E_2 + E_3[/tex] = 10 kJ; solve for m.
 
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ya that's wat i did when i said i got 2.94 grams
 
  • #12
anyway I am convinced that the answer is 2.94 grams, thanks for the tips doc al, i apreciate it
 

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