Take Physics before Chemistry in College?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the academic sequencing of Physics and Chemistry courses in college, particularly whether it is advisable to take Physics before Chemistry when starting with minimal knowledge in both subjects. Participants explore the dependencies between the two disciplines and the implications of their course choices on future studies.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that Chemistry is fundamentally based on Physics, suggesting that it is not necessary to take Chemistry first.
  • Others propose the idea of taking both subjects concurrently, noting potential confusion due to differing conceptualizations of atoms in each field.
  • A participant mentions their experience of delaying Chemistry until later in their academic career, indicating that while it is acceptable to postpone it, there may be drawbacks in understanding advanced topics later on.
  • Another participant expresses concern about taking both subjects at the same time, citing personal confusion experienced when studying Chemistry after having completed Physics.
  • One participant raises a related question about the implications of not taking Chemistry in high school for future university admissions, particularly for a focus on Physics.
  • Another participant reflects on their current experience of taking Chemistry without Physics, stating that Physics concepts frequently arise in Chemistry classes, which may indicate some level of interdependence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the sequencing of Physics and Chemistry courses, with no clear consensus on the best approach. Some advocate for taking Physics first, while others suggest concurrent enrollment or express concerns about confusion when taking both subjects simultaneously.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying levels of preparedness and the importance of foundational knowledge, indicating that individual circumstances may affect the decision on course sequencing. There is also a suggestion that the teaching methods and curriculum structure at different institutions may influence the experience of taking these subjects.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering their course options in high school or early college, particularly those interested in STEM fields, may find this discussion relevant as they navigate their academic paths.

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I hope this isn't a silly question...but i was wondering

Academically would it make sense to take Physics prior to Chemistry while having only minimal knowledge on either subject?
Do Physics rely on concepts from Chemistry?
Could i take Physics and do well without knowing Chemistry?
 
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kizzyjr5 said:
I hope this isn't a silly question...but i was wondering
Academically would it make sense to take Physics prior to Chemistry while having only minimal knowledge on either subject?
Do Physics rely on concepts from Chemistry?
Could i take Physics and do well without knowing Chemistry?

I am:biggrin:
 
Chemistry is based upon physics, not the other way around, so of course you don't have to study it first.
 
thank you both very much for your responses
 
You're quite welcome. Don't overlook the possibility of taking them both at the same time, but it might be a bit confusing because atoms tend to be thought of differently in the two fields. If you're trying to get the basics down, I'd go for the physics first. Since you didn't specify, I'm guessing that you're in early high-school or below.
 
I'll be senior (credit wise) next semester and I will take freshmen chemistry. I took physics every semester and neglected chemistry because chemistry was not a requirement for comp sci/engr. Now that I switched to electrical engineering, I have to take it. It will be an odd experience since I will take quantum mechanics at the same time. In short, it's okay to delay chemistry, but don't wait 'til junior/senior year. By then you might complain about how certain ideas are taught and most likely your school won't let you take physical chemistry as substitute (since you need analytical chem first).
 
Danger said:
You're quite welcome. Don't overlook the possibility of taking them both at the same time, but it might be a bit confusing because atoms tend to be thought of differently in the two fields. If you're trying to get the basics down, I'd go for the physics first. Since you didn't specify, I'm guessing that you're in early high-school or below.
I would concur with Danger - if possible, take both introductory physics and chemistry concurrently. Much of physics - e.g. statics and mechanics/dynamcis - is quite independent from basic chemistry, which is closer to atomic physics, so if they cannot be taken concurrently, take introductory physics first and chemistry concurrently with 2nd year physics.
 
A related question : My primary interest is Physics andd I wish to continue studying it after high school. Is it ok if don't take chemistry at all in high school? Will that lessen my chances of getting into a good university?
 
I wouldn't take them at the same time. I am now taking chem and i already took physics and I bet if i were taking them at the same time, I would have been so confused in chemistry.
 
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I am taking Chemistry this semester with no physics classses, mostly because my math isn't up to par yet. At least once every couple classes, Physics is brought up.

I've taken both the intro classes years ago, I don't think it really matters much which you take first. Although, I'd get them out of the way before you start taking upper level classes (like 2000+ type courses) because it will still teach you the basics which you should know.
 

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