Help with Banked Curves w/Friction Can someone show me how?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving banked curves with friction, specifically calculating the maximum velocity of a car navigating a curve with given parameters such as radius, bank angle, and static friction coefficient.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's 2nd Law and the importance of free body diagrams. Some suggest starting with simpler cases, such as analyzing the curve without banking or friction before incorporating those factors. Others express confusion about the original poster's calculations and seek clarification on the reasoning behind them.

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Could anyone explain to me how to go about solving these problems?
Example:
A Car is driven around a circe with a radius of 200m, bank angle 10 degrees. The static frictional coefficient is 0.60. Calculate the maximum velocity the car can travel (Vmax).
Please help!

I did this, but am not sure it is the correct way:(.6 + tan10)/(1-.6tan10) = v^2/rg

v^2 = 1703.36

v = 41/ 27 m/s

Is this correct or am I totally off??
 
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Sorry for the impatience, but I have a lot of problems like this, and I don't really understand this type, so could anyone explain it?

Thanks!
 
Start with the free body diagram and apply Newton's 2nd Law.
 
celtics, I can't tell exactly HOW you got what you did,
but generally speaking, the best approach is to
choose components parallel to the acceleration and to the velocity if possible
(here you can, so don't make a component parallel the slope)
Most folks don't do friction on banked curves as their first problem of the night!
 
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try Vmax on the curve without banking and friction first, it's much easier resolve the forces. Then try with the banking...then add friction.
 
I agree with cyclovenom and lightgrav.

See question 23 on

http://www.physics247.com/members/physics40/015.php
 
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