How to find the generator of translation?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of finding the generator of translations within the context of the Galilei group, specifically focusing on space and time translations. Participants explore whether these generators can be expressed in matrix form and the implications of such representations.

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  • One participant notes that the Galilei group includes various transformations and poses the question of how to derive the generator for space translation, P, to show its commutation relations with other generators.
  • Another participant suggests that while linear transformations can be represented in matrix form, the translation x -> x+a is not linear and proposes a method involving a "dummy line" to accommodate constant transformations in matrix notation.
  • A different participant questions whether the generator for space translations is e^{i \hat{p}a/\hbar}, indicating uncertainty about the definition of a generator.
  • One participant claims to have found an answer by suggesting that the matrix can be derived by expanding the 4D space to 5D, with a specific condition on one of the dimensions.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the generators and their representations, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about linearity in transformations and the specific definitions of generators, which are not fully clarified in the discussion.

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The Galilei group contains rotations, Galilean transformations, space translation and time translation.

It is easy to work out generators for rotations and Galilean transfromations in matrix form.

And they obey:
[tex][J^i, K^j] = i \epsilon^{ijk}K^k[/tex]

Can one work out the generator for space translation, [tex]P[/tex]? so that one can show explicitly that:

[tex][K^i, P^j] = 0[/tex]

and same for time translation.
[tex][K^i, H] = i P^i[/tex]

OR

there is no matrix form for these two generators?
 
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Nobody else has taken a shot at this, so I'll put my $.02 in, though I'm afraid I can't give you as definite an answer as you'd like (well, for that matter, as I'd like).

Usual matrix notation is linear, so you can write down (x,y) -> ax + by in matrix form. However, you want to write a transform of the form x -> x+a. This isn't a linear tranform. It appears to me that you can do this by just defining a "variable" that's equal to a constant. To avoid winding up with non-square matrices, you'll have to add a dummy line, that describes how a constant transforms. Well, a constant is always equal to itself, it doesn't depend on the other variables, so the matrix entry for how a constant transforms will have to say that it's equal to 1 x itself, no other variable affects it.
 
Isn't the generator for space translations [tex]e^{i \hat{p}a/\hbar}[/tex]? Or is a generator something different?
 
I do not quite understand what you said.
But I found the answer.
The matrix can be found by expanding the 4D space to 5D, provided that [tex]x_5[/tex] is always 1.
 

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