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| Nov14-08, 03:12 AM | #1 |
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Prove Euler Identity without using Euler Formula
Is it possible to prove Euler's identity (e^i*pi = -1) without simply taking it as a special case of Euler's formula (e^i*x = cos(x) + i sin(x))?
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| Nov14-08, 04:21 AM | #2 |
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You can derive Euler's equation by Taylor expanding e^ix.
Collecting the odd powers of x will give you the Taylor expansion of i sin(x). Collecting the even powers of x will give you the Taylor expansion of cos(x). Setting x=pi gets you what you want. |
| Nov14-08, 04:37 AM | #3 |
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| Nov14-08, 04:59 AM | #4 |
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Prove Euler Identity without using Euler Formula
never mind
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| Nov14-08, 05:01 AM | #5 |
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| Nov14-08, 09:51 PM | #6 |
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Thanks for being so gracious. I scibbled out a few things.
It's a blunt approach, but if you can prove these two series converge... [tex]1 - \frac{\pi^2}{2!} + \frac{\pi^4}{4!} - ... \rightarrow -1[/tex] and [tex]\pi - \frac{\pi^3}{3!} + \frac{\pi^5}{5!} - ... \rightarrow 0[/tex] |
| Nov15-08, 01:08 AM | #7 |
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this seems trivial: e^(x+y) = e^x e^y, so 1 = e^0 = e^ipi e^(-ipi) = e^(ipi)/ e^ipi, oops, anything satisfies this.
well you could use the uniqueness theorem for diff eq's. or say that e^(inpi) = pooey. |
| Nov15-08, 02:21 AM | #8 |
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One question: how do you define the complex exponential, in the first place? (Without using Euler's formula).
If it is defined as a Taylor series, then there's no way but to start with one, I think. |
| Nov15-08, 12:57 PM | #9 |
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| Nov15-08, 02:01 PM | #10 |
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| Nov15-08, 02:46 PM | #11 |
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Using f(0)=1,f'=f its not hard to see that g(x)=exp(ix) gives a periodic function mapping R to S1={x in C: |x|=1}. If its period is L then g(L/2)=-1.
As pi is defined to be half the circumference of a unit circle in the Euclidean plane, then pi=L/2 follows almost by definition. |
| Nov15-08, 02:55 PM | #12 |
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How do you know that |g(x)|=1? And I'm not sure I see why g(L/2)=-1 either.
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| Nov15-08, 03:08 PM | #13 |
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[tex] \frac{d}{dx} |g|^2= \frac{d}{dx}(u^2+v^2)=2uu'+2vv'=-2uv+2vu=0. [/tex] For, g(L/2)=-1, it seems obvious to me that if you go half way round a unit circle centered at the origin and starting at (1,0) takes you to (-1,0). With a bit of effort you can convert this to a rigorous argument. Alternatively, to make things easier you can use g(x+y)=g(x)g(y). If L is the period then g(L/2)^2=g(L)=g(0)=1, so g(L/2) is either 1 or -1. You can rule out g(L/2)=1, because that would imply that g has period L/2 or smaller. So, g(L/2)=-1. |
| Nov15-08, 03:16 PM | #14 |
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| Nov15-08, 03:50 PM | #15 |
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And I actually don't buy that it's obvious that L/2=pi - at least not without knowing that e^ix=cosx+isinx. |
| Nov15-08, 03:50 PM | #16 |
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The result also shows g is unit speed. Take [itex]\frac{d}{dx}|g'(x)|^2 = \frac{d}{dx}|g(x)|^2 = 0[/itex] since g' = ig. Then g is a unit speed curve restricted to the unit circle.
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| Nov15-08, 03:57 PM | #17 |
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I'm probably being especially dense... but so what?
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