Can anyone here please tell me about the sun dying?


by questura
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#19
Mar12-07, 11:23 AM
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thanks again for that..

i found the youtube link btw

http://youtube.com/watch?v=42XHIiQfCH8
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Mar14-07, 10:45 AM
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Quote Quote by DaveC426913 View Post
Great. Just great.

Our sun is in the prime of middle age. Just when everything is going along tickety-boo - BLAM - it's going to be outplaced by some younger, brighter, bluer star that's fresh out of a stellar nursery and all about the 'New Physics' and everything. Our Sun will be adrift in a world it was not made for. It will have to reinvent itself, start at the bottom again (probably won't even have any planet supervision responsibilites, and even have to clean its own stellar neighbourhood of dust and gas). And after all that, it will surely have to abandon its dream of retiring as a nova or even a supergiant, basking in the warm tropical heat. More likely, it will work right till its death and end up a shriveled, burnt out white dwarf, dying.
Alone.
In the darkess.

What? Did I say that out loud?

LOL, nice one
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#21
Mar14-07, 02:06 PM
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oooo...

look what i found.....A video of Mercury

http://www.sunshinedna.com/videos/19

:)
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Mar21-07, 06:40 AM
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offtopic (or maybe on topic - i don;t know anymore)

just seen a review on aintitcool from a screening here in London a couple of days ago:

"Having had the pleasure to catch a screening of Danny Boyle’s new film Sunshine, followed by a Q&A with the man himself and star of the film Cillian Murphy, I thought I’d share my 2 cents worth with you.

Essentially the plot is that the sun is slowly dying and a group of scientists are on a mission to reverse this by ‘kick starting’ the sun. The film knowingly references many sci-fi films from the serious and reflective, 2001 and Aliens, to the more popcorn, Event Horizon. To give you an early idea of how much I enjoyed it I’d place it much closer to the first two films mentioned than the latter. In fact some of the scenes almost feel like updated versions of Kubrick’s film (watch out for the monoliths at the end!) As their ship (the Icarus II) gets closer to the sun they encounter Icarus I, from an earlier, failed attempt. As soon as they decide to change course and investigate things start to go wrong.

Some of the most wonderful thing about the film are the visuals and sound design, this film is a treat for the senses. The CGI work is exemplary and goes a long way to establishing the sun as a character in its own right. The sound design suits the grand scale of the picture perfectly, we’re talking Oscar quality here, and Danny Boyle’s directing is at times mesmerising. The choices he makes behind the camera are inspired. He manages to infuse the screen with beauty, from the serene depictions of the ship at the beginning of the film to the extreme, jumpy, staccato, blurry and physically jarring work that comes later. It is all note perfect.

There are some fine performances but they are all overshadowed by the truly excellent visuals. Whilst Boyle does his best to balance everything out there is no denying that the visuals, don’t necessarily overpower, but are of a much higher standard that some of the acting on display. Cillian Murphy puts in a strong performance and is able to convey the internal struggle of the character very well. Both Michelle Yeoh and Hiroyuki Sanda are very good and Rose Byrne equips herself well in a part that is far too small. The other performances range from average to poor, the main problem being that the supporting actors are unable to fully portray the intellectual gravitas that such people in their position and their characters would inevitably have and that ultimately weakens the impact of the film. That’s not to say its all their own fault as the characters on the periphery are very one sided and stereotypical not leaving the cast a great deal to work with. Though it is not long before in true sci-fi style they meet untimely demises.

The closer the crew travel to the sun the more their obsession with its power takes control to the point where it takes on almost mythical proportions and the film poses some metaphysical questions.

A hugely enjoyable if not totally original film Sunshine would not exist if it were not for those that have gone before it. Boyle has borrowed from the best sci-fi of the last 40 years and brought it bang up to date. I personally can’t wait to watch it again!"
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Apr2-07, 10:41 AM
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hahaha - just found this > http://www.myspace.com/sunshinemovie

interesting choice of top friends ;0)
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Apr5-07, 05:49 AM
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UK release this weekend! BOH!

:)
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Apr12-07, 12:19 PM
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http://www.sunshinesunspots.com/

cute idea...and lol @ the first entry > http://youtube.com/sunspotsmessageuk
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Apr23-07, 04:48 AM
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I recently went to see this film and even though it has a number of scientific flaws, I enjoyed it (until the rather strange change in direction in the last third). One thing that was proposed on the website was that it was the possibility of Q-balls that were cutting short the Sun's life span and that a dark matter bomb was proposed in order to disperse the SUSY material in the Q-balls (I was looking forward to this being expanded on in the film but it wasn't touched). I have some idea of what Q-balls are and how they may affect regular matter but is there any understanding of how a dark matter bomb might be more powerful than a regular Atomic or H bomb? Is it proposed that dark matter might break down more than baryonic material therefore releasing more energy? I would normally brush this off as Hollywood science but this was proposed by a Dr. Brian Cox, a scientist at Cern (though it could be argued he's using artistic licence). It's a missed opportunity this wasn't included, in some way, in the film as the idea of 'our sun is dying' was way too simple as an introduction.

regards
Steve
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Apr23-07, 06:53 AM
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Quote Quote by questura View Post

My question is?

- is it actually possible that the sun will die?
- and if so, what are the possible reasons for it?

simple explanations please - i'm not a scientist

All stars die, it took a star dieing for our sun to form- stars actually are born from the death of other stars, though this is not always the case the bottom line is yes our sun will die.

There is a chart scientists use called the HR diagram (Hertzsprung-Russel Diagram) It's a graph of the luminosity of stars plotted against their spectral class(meaning Temperature)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertzsp...ussell_diagram

In order to understand simply the way stars form and die look at this link:
http://www.dustbunny.com/afk/stars/lifecycle/
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Apr23-07, 10:12 AM
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Quote Quote by Zenparticle View Post
All stars die, it took a star dieing for our sun to form- stars actually are born from the death of other stars, though this is not always the case the bottom line is yes our sun will die.

There is a chart scientists use called the HR diagram (Hertzsprung-Russel Diagram) It's a graph of the luminosity of stars plotted against their spectral class(meaning Temperature)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertzsp...ussell_diagram

In order to understand simply the way stars form and die look at this link:
http://www.dustbunny.com/afk/stars/lifecycle/
thanks

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Nov23-08, 08:52 AM
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Sun shine is a really awesome movie you know

Yes it is possible that the sun will die an energy that the sun use is H and change this hydrogen(4000000tones of H will be loose every sec to use it to be a fuel to make an energy) in to a H2(Helium) and use this H2 to be an energy and this process called thermonuclear. And after there is no more H in the sun it will can't make any thermonuclear process. So it need to use a last fuel left which H2 fusion to make an energy and in meanwhile the sun is swelling up and after that it will shrink rapidly in to a white dwarf planet. It won't explode, but the sun will keep shining for about 4-5 billion years


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