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| Oct1-10, 09:40 AM | #35 |
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Next stop Gliese 581gThere are, in my mind, too many unknowns to be jumping up and down about this planet as of yet. We don't know if it has an atmosphere. If it does, we don't know it's density, clarity, and makeup. We don't know if it has water, period, let alone liquid water. We don't know if the orbit is nearly circular or not. All of these things are worthy of study because this is the best candidate found yet and because the probability of CHON-based life hinges on these unknowns. |
| Oct1-10, 10:18 AM | #36 |
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Some people seem to be saying "ah what's the big deal, they might not even have movie theatres..." 'course that would just mean we wouldn't know about any subsurface water unless and until we landed on it. Which wouldn't be anytime this century. |
| Oct2-10, 12:47 AM | #37 |
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A planet with mass of 3.1 to 4.3 times that of the Earth and no atmosphere? Now that is some good science fiction! |
| Oct2-10, 10:00 AM | #38 |
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Who claimed it has no atmo? |
| Oct2-10, 10:09 AM | #39 |
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| Oct2-10, 10:12 AM | #40 |
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| Oct2-10, 11:01 AM | #41 |
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| Oct2-10, 12:20 PM | #42 |
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Until we learn more about this system, the only thing we can legitimately say about this planet's atmosphere and magnetic field is we don't know. |
| Oct2-10, 03:56 PM | #43 |
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| Oct2-10, 10:49 PM | #44 |
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Am I the only one that HAS heard of this planet before it was talked about on the 29th? I forget what show but it was naked science or how the universe works or something like that. One of them (I forget which) has talked about a rocky planet bigger than the earth and closer to its star thats in the goldilocks zone around the star gliese 581.. Maybe its just another one in the goldilocks zone?
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| Oct2-10, 11:03 PM | #45 |
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| Oct4-10, 01:33 PM | #46 |
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Before we get too excited, red dwarfs have some problems. One is that many of them - perhaps half - are UV Ceti variables, also called flare stars. They have sporadic flares which are much more dangerous than solar flares - both because they are more energetic (especially in X-rays) and because their planets are closer.
Unfortunately, Gl 581 falls into this category. (When looking it up, it's also NSV 7023. NSV stands for New Suspected Variable) |
| Oct5-10, 11:47 AM | #47 |
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I mean, 6 years trip sounds pretty optimistic. I wonder if there's any propulsion tech that is close to getting this achieved. |
| Oct5-10, 11:55 AM | #48 |
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Current proposals for interstellar travel inlcude the Bussard ramjet and Project Orion (which is in principle constructable with existing technology). But they do not reach those kinds of acceleration. Its mass increases to an outside observer, and its time dilates to an outside observer, this simply means that the ship will be observed to approach c closer and closer but never reach it. However, the occupants will not experience any increase in mass, nor any slowing of their clock. And most importantly, they will experience the trip taking only 6 years. |
| Oct6-10, 03:08 PM | #49 |
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| Oct7-10, 02:26 AM | #50 |
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Just look how misleading this is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Tucanae Just goes to show, research goes a long way... |
| Oct7-10, 08:19 AM | #51 |
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Apparently, hey have already decided its composition is "...rocky with liquid water and atmosphere..." And I like this comment: "It takes just 37 days to orbit its sun which means its seasons last for just a few days." The one-face Gliese planets do not have seasons. Nevermind the fact that they give no details about the mysterious light. |
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