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agentredlum
#55
Jul10-11, 05:28 AM
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Quote Quote by Anamitra View Post
[tex]{z=}\frac{1}{2i}{ln}\frac{x-i}{x+i}[/tex]

or,
[tex]{z=}\frac{1}{2i}{ln}\frac{{-}{(}{1}{-}{x}^{2}{)}{-}{2xi}}{{x}^{2}{+}{1}}[/tex]

We substitute,
x=tan[theta]

Now we have,
[tex]{z}{=}{-}{\frac{1}{2i}}{ln}{[}{cos}{2}{\theta}{+}{i}{sin}{(}{2}{\theta}{)}{]}[/tex]

[tex]{e}^{-2iz}{=}{cos}{2}{\theta}{+}{i}{sin}{2}{\theta}[/tex]
[tex]{cos}{(}{-2z}{)}{+}{i}{sin}{(}{-2z}{)}{=}{[}{cos}{(}{2}{\theta}{)}{+}{i}{sin}{(}{2}{\theta}{)}{]}[/tex]

Therefore,
[tex]{-2z}{=}{2}{\theta}[/tex]
z=-theta=-arctanx
The minus sign is causing trouble
Thanx for the picture. I follow you up to x = tan[theta]

I don't see how you made the substitution in line 7 of the picture. Can you please explain?

Also, z had imaginary values associated with it in line 1, where did it become a real number?

Let me point out as well that Cos(-2z) + iSin(-2z) = Cos(2z) - iSin(2z) so if z is real your equation on line 9 becomes Cos(2z) - iSin(2z) = Cos(28) + iSin(28) and so it is DANGEROUS to say 2z = 28

I have used 8 for theta because of keyboard limitations.

I would love to read your thoughts on this.
Anamitra
#56
Jul10-11, 06:36 AM
P: 621
We start with:
Integral=
[tex]{z}{=}\frac{1}{2i}{ln}{\mid}\frac{{-}{(}{1}{-}{x}^{2}{)}{-}{2xi}}{{x}^{2}{+}{1}}{\mid}[/tex]

[tex]{=}\frac{1}{2i}{ln}{\mid}{-}\frac {{1}{-}{x}^{2}}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{-}\frac{2xi}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{\mid}[/tex]
[tex]{=}\frac{1}{2i}{ln}{[}\frac {{1}{-}{x}^{2}}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{+}\frac{2xi}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{]}[/tex]

Now,
[tex]\frac{{1}{-}{tan}^{2}{\theta}}{{1}{+}{tan}^{2}{\theta}}{=}{cos}{2}{\theta}[/tex]
And,
[tex]\frac{{2}{tan}{\theta}}{{1}{+}{tan}^{2}{\theta}}{=}{sin}{2}{\theta}[/tex]
Substituting x=tan[theta] we may proceed.
agentredlum
#57
Jul10-11, 08:19 PM
P: 460
Quote Quote by Anamitra View Post
We start with:
Integral=
[tex]{z}{=}\frac{1}{2i}{ln}{\mid}\frac{{-}{(}{1}{-}{x}^{2}{)}{-}{2xi}}{{x}^{2}{+}{1}}{\mid}[/tex]

[tex]{=}\frac{1}{2i}{ln}{\mid}{-}\frac {{1}{-}{x}^{2}}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{-}\frac{2xi}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{\mid}[/tex]
[tex]{=}\frac{1}{2i}{ln}{[}\frac {{1}{-}{x}^{2}}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{+}\frac{2xi}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{]}[/tex]

Now,
[tex]\frac{{1}{-}{tan}^{2}{\theta}}{{1}{+}{tan}^{2}{\theta}}{=}{cos}{2}{\theta}[/tex]
And,
[tex]\frac{{2}{tan}{\theta}}{{1}{+}{tan}^{2}{\theta}}{=}{sin}{2}{\theta}[/tex]
Substituting x=tan[theta] we may proceed.
unfortunately my browser did not decode. Can you send a picture like last time i asked please?
Anamitra
#58
Jul10-11, 08:56 PM
P: 621
An Alternative Treatment

[tex]\frac{1}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{=}\frac{1}{2i}{[}\frac{1}{x-i}{-}\frac{1}{x+i}{]}[/tex]

[tex]{=}{-}\frac{1}{2i}{[}\frac{1}{i-x}{+}\frac{1}{i+x}{]}[/tex]

[tex]{=}{-}\frac{1}{2i}{i}^{-1}{[}{{(}{1}{-}{x}{/}{i}{)}}^{-1}{+}
{{(}{1}{+}{x}{/}{i}{)}}^{-1}{]}[/tex]

Applying the binomial expansion and after cancellations we have:

Integrand=[tex]{[}{1}{-}{x}^{2}{+}{x}^{4}{-}{x}^{6}............{]}[/tex]

On integration we have,
Integral=[tex]{[}{x}{-}{{x}^{3}}{/}{3}{+}{{x}^{5}}{/}{5}{-}{{x}^{7}}{/}{7} ..........{]}[/tex]
= arctan{x}

[link for the expansion of arc tan(x): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series ]
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Anamitra
#59
Jul10-11, 09:22 PM
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Integrand=[tex]{[}{1}{-}{x}^{2}{+}{x}^{4}{-}{x}^{6}............{]}[/tex]

The above series is convergent for abs[x]<1. Integration is allowed for such cases.

When abs[x]>1 we may proceed as follows:
Let y=1/x
Now, abs value of y is less than 1

[tex]\int\frac{1}{{1}{+}{x}^{2}}{dx}{=}{-}\int\frac{1}{{1}{+}{y}^{2}}{dy}[/tex]

Since y<1 , we may proceed exactly in the same manner and get the same
result preceded by a negative sign as expected.

[tex]{tan}^{-1}{(}{1}{/}{x}{)}{=}{\pi}{/}{2}{-}{tan}^{-1}{(}{x}{)}[/tex]

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse...tric_functions
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Anamitra
#60
Jul10-11, 10:47 PM
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agentredlum
#61
Jul10-11, 11:51 PM
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Thank you sir. It is a clever trick. I understand now almost all of line #7 of picture in post #52, just one more thing, how did minus sighn appear outside the ln? If this is trivial i beg your forgiveness.

Thanx again.
Anamitra
#62
Jul11-11, 12:37 AM
P: 621
You can't take a minus sign outside the log symbol.It is important to note the log of a negative number is undefined. The base has to be positive[but not one or zero]. But the log of a number can be negative.

Let [tex]{y}{=}{log}_{b}{A}[/tex]

[tex]{-}{log}_{b}{A}{=}{log}_{b}{A}^{-1}[/tex]
By definition A and b are positive. But y can be negative or positive or zero.In the second relation the negative sign outside the log symbol becomes a power of A and not its coefficient.
What I have said so far [in this post] is basically in relation to the logarithm of real numbers.

For complex numbers , you may go through the link below:

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_logarithm

[You cannot take a minus sign out side the log symbol in any situation: real or complex.]
agentredlum
#63
Jul11-11, 12:50 AM
P: 460
Quote Quote by Anamitra View Post
You can't take a minus sign outside the log symbol.It is important to note the log of a negative number is undefined. The base has to be positive[but not one or zero]. But the log of a number can be negative.

Let [tex]{y}{=}{log}_{b}{A}[/tex]

By definition A and b are positive. But y can be negative or positive or zero.
What I have said so far [in this post] is in relation to the logarithm of real numbers.

For complex numbers , you may go through the link below:

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_logarithm
Thanx, it all makes sense now, so the minus sign was causing trouble because it was a typo.
For myself, I liked that derivation very much because you used clever algebra and sqrt(-1) that is why i tried so hard to understand it.
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Anamitra
#64
Jul12-11, 11:19 AM
P: 621
A Simple Paradox to Sort Out

[tex]\sqrt{16}{=}\sqrt{-4*-4}[/tex]
[tex]{=}\sqrt{-4}{*}\sqrt{-4}[/tex]
[tex]{=}\pm{2i}{*}\pm{2i}[/tex]
[tex]{=}\pm{4}{i}^{2}[/tex]
Therefore,
[tex]\pm{4}{=}\pm{4}{i}^{2}[/tex]
[tex]{=>}{i}^{2}{=}\pm{1}[/tex]
Are you ready to believe that?
Guffel
#65
Jul12-11, 11:19 AM
P: 29
Brun's theorem states that the sum of the inverses of the twin primes converges, i.e.
[tex]\sum_{p:p+2\in{\mathbb{P}}}\left(\frac{1}{p}+\frac{1}{p+2}\right)=B[/tex]
where B is Brun's constant. So, even if there are infinitely many twin primes (which has not yet been proven), the above sum converges. This is not the truth for the naturals and the primes, i.e.
[tex]\sum_{p\in{\mathbb{P}}}\frac{1}{p}=\infty[/tex] and
[tex]\sum_{n\in{\mathbb{N}}}\frac{1}{n}=\infty[/tex]
But for the squares (and cubes etc) of the naturals, the sum converges.
[tex]\sum_{n\in{\mathbb{N}}}\frac{1}{n^2}=\frac{\pi^2}{6}[/tex]
Brun's theorem is in my opinion a beautiful result and is worth a post in itself.

BUT, I have been thinking that this is somehow related to cardinality. Let's define a measure
[tex]\mathcal{M}\left(A\right)[/tex]which is the sum of the reciprocals of the elements in the set A. Then
[tex]\mathcal{M}\left(\mathbb{N}^2\right) < \mathcal{M}\left(twin primes\right) < \mathcal{M}\left(\mathbb{P}\right) = \mathcal{M}\left(\mathbb{N}\right) = \infty[/tex]
So in the sense of the measure M, the set of all squares is a "less dense" set than the twin primes, which in turn is "less dense" than the set of the primes and so on.
This measure can be generalized to any function f(n).
[tex]\mathcal{M}_f\left(A\right)=\sum_{n\in{A}}f\left(n\right) [/tex]
My guess is that this (or something related) has been done before. In that case, where can I find more information?

Fake edit: Of course I found what I was looking for about two seconds before I was about to post my ramblings. Well, since I spent an hour trying to figure out how to use LaTeX, I'll post it anyway. :)
Char. Limit
#66
Jul12-11, 01:20 PM
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Quote Quote by Anamitra View Post
A Simple Paradox to Sort Out

[tex]\sqrt{16}{=}\sqrt{-4*-4}[/tex]
[tex]{=}\sqrt{-4}{*}\sqrt{-4}[/tex]
[tex]{=}\pm{2i}{*}\pm{2i}[/tex]
[tex]{=}\pm{4}{i}^{2}[/tex]
Therefore,
[tex]\pm{4}{=}\pm{4}{i}^{2}[/tex]
[tex]{=>}{i}^{2}{=}\pm{1}[/tex]
Are you ready to believe that?
The problem with this is the transition to the second line. Fact is, square roots only for-sure have this property:

[tex]\sqrt{xy} = \sqrt{x}\sqrt{y}[/tex]

When x and y are positive.
micromass
#67
Jul12-11, 01:23 PM
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Quote Quote by Char. Limit View Post
The problem with this is the transition to the second line. Fact is, square roots only for-sure have this property:

[tex]\sqrt{xy} = \sqrt{x}\sqrt{y}[/tex]

When x and y are positive.
The problem with the poster is even more fundamental. He says that

[tex]\sqrt{16}=\pm 4[/tex]

which is simply untrue. The square root is defined to be a positive value, no exceptions.
Anamitra
#68
Jul12-11, 08:30 PM
P: 621
Quote Quote by Char. Limit View Post
The problem with this is the transition to the second line. Fact is, square roots only for-sure have this property:

[tex]\sqrt{xy} = \sqrt{x}\sqrt{y}[/tex]

When x and y are positive.
This is definitely the correct answer. And Evo has provided a prompt reply.In fact I got the same answer from Ask Dr Math when I sent them this problem a few months back.

Now to make the definition of "i" consistent we have the rule indicated by Evo.It is there in the texts.
Query: If the definition of "i" is re-formulated so that i^2 is =1 in certain exceptional cases it is going to have interesting effects in many areas of physics for example in the area of general relativity. Is it necessary to do that , to keep such a provision?
[This is of course a speculative query. I am not staking any type of claim anywhere in regard of this.]
Anamitra
#69
Jul12-11, 11:35 PM
P: 621
For Applications of the Exception:
[tex]{i}{=}{{(}{i*i*i*i}{)}}^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{(}{-i*-i*-i*-i}{)}^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{{(}{i}^{3}*{i}^{3}*{i}^{3}*{i}^{3}{)}}^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{{(}{i}^{12}{)}}^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{i}^{3}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{-i}[/tex]
Could any anybody provide me with the full list of exceptions in relation to “i” ?
pwsnafu
#70
Jul12-11, 11:51 PM
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Quote Quote by Anamitra View Post
For Applications of the Exception:
[tex]{i}{=}{{(}{i*i*i*i}{)}}^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{(}{-i*-i*-i*-i}{)}^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{{(}{i}^{3}*{i}^{3}*{i}^{3}*{i}^{3}{)}}^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{{(}{i}^{12}{)}}^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{i}^{3}[/tex]
[tex]{i}{=}{-i}[/tex]
Any anybody provide me with the full list of exceptions in relation to i ?
Every single line is wrong. The nth-root is multivalued on the complex numbers. You are not allowed to just throw three quarters of your solution set away. This is like saying
[tex](-1)^2 = 1^2[/tex] and therefore -1=1.
Anamitra
#71
Jul13-11, 12:11 AM
P: 621
x^4-i^4=0
has four solutions.

One of them is i. The others are not "i"
Anamitra
#72
Jul13-11, 12:17 AM
P: 621
In the first line of post #69 the positive value of the fourth root on the RHS is matching with the value on the LHS.

This is supposed to continue to the last line unless you create a new rule or some exception.


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