## Astrophysicist salary

 Quote by thinkies Hey guys/girls, I was wondering if some of you can tell how good are the opportunities for a phD astrophysicist worldwide and exactly how much do they get paid. One thing that's bothering me is that we study for phD level and from what I've heard, astrophysicist don't really get as much as a doctor. Doctors often make 10-20 TIMES more then astrophysicist. ON TOP, my parents are *kinda* forcing me to take biology and become a doctor, they beleive i will 'ruin' my life and even waste time...without earning a lot(beside,almost everyone in my family is a doctor....=.= )... Any thoughts about this?!?!?! I am so confused and frustrated... Thanks.
If u really like Astrophysics then u should convince ur parents that u want to do it. Also it's wrong that astrophysicist don't earn more money than doctors. Some astrophysicist earn more money than doctors especially if they are professor.
 i dont care how much a theretical physict get paid i want to be one i want to have infinite knowledge about the universe,i want to understand the laws governing our daily life, iwant to know god, what he is thinking, how he created the universe, the atom, its not about money its about passion and questions that needs to be answerd maybe u should take that into consideration
 yea, but we still gotta eat.
 Seeing as how this was posted about two years ago, he's probably not hanging around anymore. And harvellt is very correct; while you often don't have to worry much about money in high school, getting out on your own, paying rent, paying off student loans, supporting a family - it's expensive, and can be very expensive depending on where you live. Also, you appear to have a very idealized idea of what being a theoretical physicist is all about. It's far more about picking a very specific field and becoming an expert in that area; it's not all-encompasing, and certainly doesn't extend into religion or philosophy (at least, not if you're doing it right).

 Quote by al-saidi i dont care how much a theretical physict get paid i want to be one i want to have infinite knowledge about the universe,i want to understand the laws governing our daily life, iwant to know god, what he is thinking, how he created the universe, the atom, its not about money its about passion and questions that needs to be answerd maybe u should take that into consideration
So what are you going to do when you see what you wish can't be achieved?
 What math classes do you recommend I take in college in order to become an astrophysicist?

 Quote by al-saidi i dont care how much a theretical physict get paid i want to be one i want to have infinite knowledge about the universe,i want to understand the laws governing our daily life, iwant to know god, what he is thinking, how he created the universe, the atom, its not about money its about passion and questions that needs to be answerd maybe u should take that into consideration
That's a horrible reason to study physics, because the more you study the more you realize that you don't really understand what is going on.

 Quote by twofish-quant That's a horrible reason to study physics, because the more you study the more you realize that you don't really understand what is going on.
Haha I love this, it inspires me to learn more! I believe the journey there is more important than the end. Anyhow, what he probably means is that he wants to learn as much as possible and that figuring out the intricacies of the laws governed by nature fascinates him.
 Even if the salary does get higher by 2025 (and it probably will) I doubt it'll be in any position to compare with a doctor. We hardly find money-minded astrophysicists any day. I suppose, like Warren said, it's all about passion for the discipline. You don't have that, you might as well look some place else; but if you do, then the intellectual pleasure will be far more rewarding than any monetary benefits. Plus, if you're good, you just might be able to make more money than just an average astrophysicist. Personally I think you have quite a lot of time to decide and there is always the chance that your interests may waiver so while it's good to keep the goal in mind, it's also important not to jump the gun.

 Quote by vhbelvadi Even if the salary does get higher by 2025 (and it probably will) I doubt it'll be in any position to compare with a doctor.
Starting comp for a Ph.D. quant in an investment bank is $150K, and if you make VP which usually happens in three years, you end up making$250K. I know of astrophysics Ph.D.'s (i.e. my boss's boss's boss's boss) that are managing directors and my guess is that they make close to $1M/year.  I suppose, like Warren said, it's all about passion for the discipline. You don't have that, you might as well look some place else; but if you do, then the intellectual pleasure will be far more rewarding than any monetary benefits. There is a balance here. Not caring enough about money can get you in as much trouble as caring too much about money. One of the big problems is that if you are willing to do something for free, people will exploit you and expect you to do things for free, and this leads to bad situations. I'm willing to crunch PDE's for free since that's cool. However, if you want me to crunch *your* PDE's, then you have to show me the money. Also I have to eat, and there are always practical things to keep your feet on the ground. Also research is hard sometimes brutal work. You spend hours thinking about a problem and then you leave totally exhausted, and along with moments of joy, you also end up with moments of anger and frustration. It's not the type of thing that you can reasonably expect people to do for free, and honestly I think the idea that "passion" is important is part of a conspiracy to get people to work cheap. Remember that the word "passion" means sufferring. The other thing is that if you enjoy intellectual puzzles, then "how do I make money?" is a pretty cool one.  This brings Einstein's words to mind: Physics is a wonderful thing if one does not have to earn one's living at it!  I'm near your grade, i'm in grade(year) 10 in australia. I'm planning to do astrophysics regardless of salary. I'm doing Advanced math, bio,chem,physics, next year in highschool. In Australia, where i am currently living, the subjects you do in highschool in no way affect your choices in Uni. The only thing that's important is the mark for the yr 12 HSE.  Quote by thinkies AND why does a f***** doctor make more then an astrophysicist, both of them require same hard work, just different fields. Lack of people in astrophysics?.....o.0 Supply and demand  Quote by vhbelvadi This brings Einstein's words to mind: Physics is a wonderful thing if one does not have to earn one's living at it! I don't like that quote. It implies that people who do physics for a living shouldn't be able to enjoy it.  Quote by jk Supply and demand Also I question the premise of the statement that astrophysicists make less than doctors. Astrophysics professors and senior research scientists can make around 100-120K which is comparable to what doctors make. The other thing is that the range is even higher if you include people that have astrophysics backgrounds. My best guess is that my boss's boss's boss's boss who has an astrophysics Ph.D. makes close to$1M/year.

 We hardly find money-minded astrophysicists any day.
Let me introduce you to one..... Me.....

Money is not the most important thing in my life (family is), but it is important, and I've found that it's a bad idea to ignore it.

 I suppose, like Warren said, it's all about passion for the discipline. You don't have that, you might as well look some place else; but if you do, then the intellectual pleasure will be far more rewarding than any monetary benefits.
No it won't. The problem is that if you don't have a steady income, you are going to be too worried about other things to have time or energy thinking about the universe.

Also it's really not an either/or situation. I'd be willing to work as a professor for a lot less money than I make right now, but the job offers aren't coming in. By contrast, it's interesting that my boss's boss's boss's boss, who makes close to \$1M/year, is also a faculty member at a really big name university, and got that job after making mega-bucks.
 I am also in grade 10 and I also want to study astrophysics.It is indeed a very intresting topic.i have always gotten top marks in science.
 Hi If you still want todo physics you could do a major in phyics and a minor in biology and then you always have the option of becoming an astrophysicist or a radiographer which is kind of like a medical doctor that likes physics.
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