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| Sep4-10, 05:18 PM | #1 |
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How does cancer kill?
Im only 15. I know a bit about cancer, but i cant find anywhere how it actually kills you. I understand metastasis; where the cancer spreads. But i dont understand how the growth of extra cells (damaged or not) can kill.
Might be a stupid question. Adam |
| Sep4-10, 05:35 PM | #2 |
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No it's not at all a stupid question.
Here's a page that discusses it: http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-c...ancer-kill-you It looks like there are several ways discussed on that page:
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| Sep4-10, 05:44 PM | #3 |
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Thanks very much, that cleared everything up. :)
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| Feb4-12, 10:51 PM | #4 |
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How does cancer kill?
why can't surgery just remove any potential threat then?? From what I understand, if a group of cancerous cells is not big enough to block a vital function, then you will not die.
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| Feb4-12, 11:02 PM | #5 |
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Sometimes the cancer is too well integrated into an organ to be removed without destroying the organ.
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| Feb4-12, 11:05 PM | #6 |
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| Feb4-12, 11:32 PM | #7 |
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When cancer starts there are certain mutations that crop up in a kind of typical fashion. Or so most students learn, but in reality there isn't a set order that leads to neoplasm. Some types of neoplasms turn out to be "spready" early only, that is to say they "migrate" away from home, because of the fortunes mutation has allotted them. Because of that, they end up seeding other places they land with new little cancerous colonies. Glioblastoma (there is a topic about this over on the medical forums) and pancreatic adenocarcinoma are both examples of what we call in medical speak, highly invasive and aggressive neoplasms--That even with surgical resection typically have less than 5%, 5 year survival rates. |
| Feb5-12, 02:13 AM | #8 |
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cancer cells basically compete with your healthy cells. Your healthy cells are programmed to die under appropriate conditions to regulate constant, healthy cellular turnover. This process is called apoptosis. If your own body didn't kill it's own cells in a controlled way, it would start to build up a lot of dysfunctional cell populations, and overpopulation would put pressure on resource sharing. Cancer cells are cells that are no longer in touch with this aspect of the control system, but can still reproduce.
It seems that it's kind of an umbrella term for any disease that has this result (unregulated cell growth). The microscopic picture may not be the same for every case (my ignorance here, I'm just guessing there's more than one signaling pathway that can be the root cause of the emergent effect). |
| Feb5-12, 06:30 AM | #9 |
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1) By becoming large enough to cause pressure-related complications locally. This applies especially to confined, anatomically critical locations like within the skull, so aggressive brain tumours (like glioblastoma multiforme) kill this way. Sometimes, even when there's space to grow, the tumour may obstruct the function of surrounding healthy cells and ducts, and cause a slower death that way, e.g. pancreatic cancer causing biliary system obstruction and all its attendant complications. 2) By causing systemic (body-wide) complications related to hormone-like effects. These are called "paraneoplastic syndromes". A serious one is related to a marked rise in serum calcium, that can have effects on the heart. Another serious one relates to an increase in clotting tendency, that can cause clots to form in the vascular system. The clots can travel to the vessels of the lung, a complication called pulmonary embolism, which can lead to compromised respiratory function and sudden death. 3) By compromising the immune system. This can happen directly, like in blood-cell cancers where the organs that generate immune system cells are directly shut down and the progenitor immune system cells are crowded out. It can also happen indirectly, like when chemotherapy given to cancer patients also hit healthy bystander immune cells, causing complications like neutropenia (markedly reduced numbers of a particular fraction of white blood cells) that can lead to a serious susceptibility to life-threatening infections. Those are the main modes by which death occurs in cancer sufferers. Of course, rarer complications can always occur, for example in a large and friable (fragile) tumour, a piece can easily break off and block a large vessel or break into smaller pieces and embolise to the lung vessels. And sometimes cancers be associated with certain infections that can then cause further infectious complications. An interesting example of the latter is with a group of bacteria that are loosely known as Streptococcus bovis group, which have a tendency to cause colorectal (large intestine) cancers. The cancers themselves can also increase (by destroying the normally ordered tissue architecture) the likelihood that these bacteria migrate into the bloodstream (called translocation) and infect the heart's valves, resulting a severe infection called endocarditis, which can be life-threatening. But by-and-large, these are just interesting oddities that are nice to know about (unless you work in the field, as I do). |
| Feb5-12, 07:23 AM | #10 |
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A little diversion here. Is it true that the reason causing cancer is not well known? If we know the causes of cancer then in someday, we should be able to deliberately remove all these factors and stop cancer from happening.
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| Feb5-12, 08:24 AM | #11 |
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| Feb5-12, 09:54 AM | #12 |
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What will make future cancer treatments more effective is early diagnosis, rapid genotyping of patient cancer and increased targeting/specificity of cancer cells. |
| Feb5-12, 10:05 AM | #13 |
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For instance in the heart of a necrotic tumor you have lots of things being released like TNF-[itex]\alpha[/itex], IL-1, IL-6 etc. These cause inflammation, hyperpyrexia, cachexia, etc. This can cause problems like you pointed out; of hypercalcemia or probably even more dangerous hyperkalemia (the body doesn't handle increased serum K+ well at all and this can quickly cause arrhythmia problems). |
| Feb14-12, 11:24 AM | #14 |
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| Feb14-12, 11:25 PM | #15 |
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Looking back on this, I think what I described could also be a benign (non-cancerous) tumor. To be cancer it also has to be metastatic doesn't it? Is that the only difference between a tumor and cancer? |
| Feb15-12, 06:29 AM | #16 |
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BTW, not all cancerous tumors metastasize - for instance glioblastoma multiforme, one of the deadliest cancers known, almost never spreads to other parts of the body, but instead takes over the whole brain like an octopus resulting in coma and eventually death. |
| Feb23-12, 09:23 AM | #17 |
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